Hey Guillaume,

Any tool listed below have own 'management' tool, and that's main problem. We 
(generaly people involved in webconsole development) wish to propose solution 
without forcing anybody to using or extending it. It will depend on developers 
and users community if they will see benefits from webconsole extensions or not.
From other hand camel svn repository contains code which is stricly related to 
Karaf - the commands and some community members support it even if not everyone 
uses it. In fact 50% of camel code is not widely used, but that is not reason 
to remove it from source tree, isn't?

I think also we will be able to provide *web* distribution of webconsole 
without bigger problems. Code uses plain wicket structures and may be embedded 
in any WAR so it may be easier to switch webconsole from osgi to war than 
servicemix from osgi to tomcat.

Best regards,
Lukasz


> 2011/9/2 Łukasz Dywicki <[email protected]>:
>> Hey guys,
>> Since we have bunch of features in current prototype I would like to start 
>> talking about roadmap and other communities involvement.
>> 
>> What we currently have:
>> - Security layer integrated with JAAS, also with support for roles (based on 
>> Ioannis jaas-blog example).
>>        Every subpage can have different set of principals allowed to watch 
>> it - for example we can introduce karaf-manager and developer roles and so 
>> on.
>> - Support for basic OSGi operations
>>        Start, stop, refresh and uninstall operations on bundles
>> - Extensible bundles view which allows to add new columns
>>        As an example you can check blueprint module
>> - Support for basic karaf operations
>>        Viewing, installing features, listing repositories and adding new ones
>> - Extensible dashboard with widgets possible to be added dynamically by 
>> webconsole modules
>> - Example ServiceMix extension which lists endpoints, exchanges and exchange 
>> details
>> - Support for translations throught wicket i18n mechanism
>> - Support for branding based on OSGi BrandProvider services, not only on 
>> fragment resource overrides.
>> 
>> Felix WebConsole contains much more features eg. viewing the logs, editing 
>> the configurations (it's broken currently in our case) managing Karaf 
>> instances and so on. I started thinking about announcing our work to these 
>> user communities who may be interested in extensions. With them we can 
>> discuss scope of webconsole (and their extensions). I think we are close to 
>> stabilize core APIs and start working on first version which should be 
>> released before end of this year.
>> 
>> Communities which may be involved:
>> - servicemix (especially in context of smx5)
>> - camel
>> - felix
>> - sling
>> - geronimo (since it is OSGi based)
>> - activemq?
>> - cxf?
> 
> Afaik, Geronimo has its own console.
> Camel and ActiveMQ are not OSGi based so I doubt they could benefit
> from this work.
> For ServiceMix, we were also discussing allowing ServiceMix added
> value to run on non OSGi based deployment such as tomcat, so that may
> be a bit problematic too.
> 
>> WDYT, are we ready to ask them for help and cooperation?
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Lukasz
> 
> 
> 
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