The spec is being implemented by Aries, so I don't really see the need to
do the same work in Karaf honestly.

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 09:11, Christian Schneider
<[email protected]>wrote:

> I think we should rather focus on the subsystem spec. Perhaps we could
> already implement the spec like it is now and do what we think is best
> where the spec is lacking. Then when the spec is finished we could
> adjust our code to be fully spec compliant. So we would not have to
> implement two things that do quite the same thing.
>
> Christian
>
>
> Am 13.11.2011 00:49, schrieb David Jencks:
>
>  There's been a lot of discussion about isolation in osgi, including
>> "region" based isolation in virgo, composite bundle support in some
>> versions of equinox, and a lot of work on the subsystems spec.  Isolation
>> in virgo and the aries subsystem RI appears to be going to be based on a
>> "region" jar in equinox that glyn wrote for virgo.
>>
>> The subsystems spec looks like it's going to provide a very convenient
>> way of setting up some kinds of isolation, but the plain regions jar while
>> harder to configure allows a lot more flexibility. Also the subsystems spec
>> won't be ready for a while and the RI is certainly lagging behind the spec
>> drafts.  I think it would be useful right now to have a direct region-based
>> isolation solution for karaf, and it might be useful to preserve the
>> additional flexibility even when subsystems are available.
>>
>> I've implemented a basic regions integration for karaf (trunk).  See
>> https://issues.apache.org/**jira/browse/KARAF-1009<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KARAF-1009>
>>
>> Some features:
>>
>> - regions are configured in etc/regions-config.xml.  This is installed on
>> first startup, changes are ignored unless you do a clean start
>>
>> - admin commands including region:info that shows the regions, filters,
>> and which bundles are in which region.  There are some more commands
>> described in the jira but they are basically useful only for playing around.
>>
>> - features get a new "region" attribute making them install into the
>> specified region
>>
>> - Aries RecursiveBundleTracker has been modified to work with R43 hook
>> based isolation (that's what the region jar uses under the covers) so the
>> aries blueprint extender (and other extenders using the
>> RecursiveBundleTracker) will work on bundles in isolated regions.
>>
>> There's more description in the jira.
>>
>> As an example, I've configured the jpa and jndi features to go in the
>> application region configured in regions-config.xml.  The jpa feature has a
>> blueprint plan and if you have up to date aries bundles you should see that
>> the blueprint stuff is created properly.
>>
>> These console commands might be interesting to try:
>>
>> region:info
>> bundle:list -t 0
>> feature:install jpa
>> bundle:list -t 0
>> region:info
>> feature:install jndi
>> bundle:list -t 0
>> region:info
>>
>> I'd really appreciate some feedback on this.  I know the admin commands
>> are pretty rudimentary :-)
>>
>> I also know it would be pretty nice to be able to change filters once
>> created.  As far as I can tell so far the regions jar doesn't let you do
>> this, and although I think that ability will be needed for subsystems I
>> don't propose to implement it yet.
>>
>> Is this something we want in karaf?
>>
>>
>> thanks
>> david jencks
>>
>>
>
> --
>
> Christian Schneider
> http://www.liquid-reality.de
>
> Open Source Architect
> Talend Application Integration Division http://www.talend.com
>
>


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