Great, I'm proposing to review the change in early stage with you.

Don't hesitate to ping me then.

Thanks !
Regards
JB

On 01/25/2018 11:10 AM, Thomas Draier wrote:
> I will go back to #44 then :-)
> 
> Yes, we are using a fork with changes from #44. And also some other changes
> in the synchronizers - we are currently reviewing if there are still things
> we may need to push to the master or if they have already been fixed.
> 
> thomas
> 
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 11:02 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
>> That's bad: a node can leave the default group.
>>
>> I didn't approve https://github.com/apache/karaf-cellar/pull/44 yet,
>> especially
>> because it changes the group management. That's why I would like to do a
>> deep
>> review ;)
>> I guess you are using a fork on Cellar with your changes, right ?
>>
>> Let me check the sync change I did.
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>> On 01/25/2018 10:57 AM, Thomas Draier wrote:
>>> Hi JB,
>>>
>>> I did not move the node to groupA, as all groups always belong to default
>>> and we cannot "leave" default group (or should they not ? maybe I broke
>>> this in https://github.com/apache/karaf-cellar/pull/44 ? ). In our case
>> we
>>> need to have nodes belong to multiple groups - we have a "limited" group
>>> for deploying bundles only on a sub set of nodes, but deployment on
>> default
>>> should still deploy on all nodes.
>>>
>>> We are on a quite old version of cellar ( karaf 4.0.7 / cellar 4.0.2 ),
>> can
>>> you point me to the changes on sync you are talking ? We can probably
>>> upgrade cellar but upgrading karaf will be more difficult, is is possible
>>> to cellar 4.1.x on karaf 4.0.7 ?
>>>
>>> Thanks !
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 10:30 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Thomas,
>>>>
>>>> did you move the nodes to default to groupA ?
>>>>
>>>> If nodes belong to multiple groups, it's the expected behavior.
>>>>
>>>> Union of groups is not a good setup as you can have slight difference.
>>>> That's why you have the cluster:group-move/set.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>>
>>>> On 01/25/2018 10:21 AM, Thomas Draier wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> We have been trying to use cellar groups for our cluster deployments.
>> The
>>>>> idea was to be able to deploy one bundle to only a subset of nodes, but
>>>>> actually we did not manage to make it work.
>>>>>
>>>>> We created one single group, say groupA that contains 2 nodes, in
>>>> addition
>>>>> to the default group, which contain all nodes. Both groups use the
>>>>> "cluster" configuration (pull / push), bundles can be handled by any
>>>> group
>>>>> (no whitelist/blacklist), and no local listener is configured.
>>>>>
>>>>> Basically, when we deploy a module on groupA, the module is correctly
>>>>> installed on all nodes of this group, and everything goes fine.
>> However,
>>>> if
>>>>> a sync is done on the default group, the bundle will be immediately
>>>>> uninstalled, as the "pull" operation will see this bundle as local only
>>>>> (it's not in default group) and will uninstall it.
>>>>>
>>>>> On the other hand, if we deploy a module on default group, it's
>> correctly
>>>>> installed everywhere, but the next sync of groupA will uninstall the
>>>> bundle
>>>>> from the 2 nodes that it owns.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since sync are done automatically quite often, including at startup,
>> some
>>>>> bundles can get unexpectedly uninstalled at any time. At startup, since
>>>> all
>>>>> groups are syncing in a random order - the last group to sync will
>> "win",
>>>>> so will reinstall bundles that were just uninstalled by the previous
>>>> sync -
>>>>> but bundles only installed on other groups will be removed.
>>>>>
>>>>> We were thinking of different possible fixes for handling that ( maybe
>>>>> changing the sync, checking that the bundle is not part of any cluster
>>>>> group before uninstalling it or changing its state ), but it's actually
>>>> not
>>>>> quite clear what is the expected behaviour and how it is supposed to
>>>> work.
>>>>> Is there anything wrong in the way we are using groups ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>> [email protected]
>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>
> 

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http://blog.nanthrax.net
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