1. Sounds good 2. I think Jetty 12 / pax-web support in v4.5.x is important. I started working on a PR for it, but there are significant Jetty API changes. (Jetty 12 support would provide a LTS-like support timeframe while Karaf 5.x gets going.)
3. +1 on JUnit 5 Extension / Runner instead of pax-exam +1 on simplified default logger — One thing pax-logging’s wrapping provides reload of config. Is the thought here to drop runtime reload of logging configuration change?. Regarding replacing pax-web — this seems like a large effort. There are a *ton* of unit tests of various use cases there and lots of value covering a ton of web-deployment scenarios. Are you thinking of dropping http whiteboard or other deploy scenarios in favor of servlet-only? If the other scenarios are required, perhaps keep pax-web and only go wtih Jetty/Tomcat support? I don’t see a lot of demand / usage of Undertow. 4. Configuration and Encryption service (and encryption of config keys and values) as first-class services instead of jasypt add-on. (JDK crypto out-of-the-box). My $0.02. Thanks, Matt Pavlovich > On Jun 4, 2024, at 4:17 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> wrote: > > Hi folks, > > I think it's time to prepare a new milestone for the project :) > > Short term (and first step) is to prepare the coming release: > > 1. Apache Karaf 4.4.7 will be submitted to vote next week. It will include: > * Improvement on the spring features repository (providing both > Spring 5 and Spring 6 features) > * Dependencies updates and minor fixes found on the 4.4.6 release > > 2. Apache Karaf 4.5.0 will be submitted to vote by the end of the > month. It will include (mainly): > * New spec features repository with Jakarta specs > * Bigger fixes for 4.5.0 > > 3. Apache Karaf 5.0.0 > That's the big milestone, and I propose to have big and opinionated > changes here. OSGi is an implementation detail of the runtime, still > exposed to the experimented users. > Be opinionated means that I propose to remove PAX * dependencies, > and provide Karaf services instead, very simple and opinionated (for > instance, instead of PAX Web, a simple Tomcat based service, instead > of PAX Logging, a simple slf4j/log4j only service, Pax Exam replaced > by JUnit 5 simple extensions, etc). > Another goal of Karaf 5 is to bring new tooling to improve dev > experience (annotation based distributions generation, etc). > Also, users will be able to smoothly deploy Spring powered or > Servlet applications without knowing/leveraging OSGi (especially the > import/export pattern). > > Thoughts ? > > Regards > JB