@Toshiya

to be clear...

+1 to Java 17
+1 to Maven 3.9.3
+1 to Quarkus LTS
+1 to Springboot `3.0.5` upgrade (but I won't make any opposition to it
later after upgrading quarkus).

On Tue, 28 Nov 2023 at 03:46, Toshiya Kobayashi <toshiyakobaya...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thank you all for the replies.
>
> To recap discussed-points:
>
> * Java version
>
> Agreed on Java 17.
>
> It will be configured in
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-pipelines/pull/1125 Thank
> you, Jan and Tibor!
>
> * Quarkus version
>
> Tibor, Alex and Jason give +1 for LTS 3.2.
>
> Mario, WDYT?
>
>  A) Complete Quarkus 3.5.2 migration anyway. After the migration done,
> create a Quarkus 3.2 LTS branch, too.
>  B) Recreate the current migration PRs to meet Quarkus 3.2.
>
> * Maven version
>
> Alex gave +1 for 3.9.3 (= proposed-maven-version of Quarkus 3.2.9.Final).
>
> Mario mentioned that it can be upgraded after the migration.
>
> * Spring Boot version
>
> Pere, sorry that I'm not well understanding the reply. You meant it's okay
> to go with `3.0.5` for now, or any higher version than `3.0.5` in mind?
>
> Mario mentioned that it can be upgraded after the migration.
>
> Regards,
> Toshiya
>
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 12:06 AM Alex Porcelli <a...@porcelli.me> wrote:
>
> > +1 for Java 17
> > -1 for current Quarkus 3.5.2, as expressed earlier I think LTS (3.2.9)
> > would be better
> > +1 for Maven upgrade to 3.9.3 (aligns with Quarkus LTS 3.2.9)
> > - 0 neutral for SpringBoot upgrades. As pointed out by Pere, it's not
> > a bad idea to try to upgrade SB, but at the same time I don't think
> > this is a blocker.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 7:26 AM Pere Fernandez (apache)
> > <pefer...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Toshiya, thank you for the recap!
> > >
> > > Regarding the Spring-boot version, I'd prefer to continue with the
> > version
> > > upgrade since most of the recipes/patches already include some changes
> > > related to Spring-boot (at least in kogito-runtimes, kogito-apps &
> > > kogito-examples), so I think that since we have some work already done
> > it's
> > > great to move the upgrade forward.
> > >
> > > However, I think that it would be good to do a check to all our Spring
> > Boot
> > > stack at some point after the upgrade, last week I tried some
> SpringBoot
> > > examples and were presenting issues, I couldn't look deeply so IDK if
> the
> > > errors were about misconfiguration or bugs in our codebase.
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > >
> > > On Mon, 27 Nov 2023 at 09:31, Tibor Zimányi <tzima...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Mario,
> > > >
> > > > based on this I think the CI is already using Java 17 (1). If that is
> > not
> > > > the case I could take a look.
> > > >
> > > > As far as Java 17 I agree we should target Java 17. Recently even
> > newer LTS
> > > > Java was released (21) so I think 17 is fine.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Tibor
> > > >
> > > > (1)
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-pipelines/blob/main/apache-nodes/Dockerfile.kogito-ci-build#L5
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dňa po 27. 11. 2023, 9:05 Mario Fusco <mariofu...@apache.org>
> > napísal(a):
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the recap of the situation Toshiya,
> > > > >
> > > > > I was struggling trying to make kogito-runtimes to work with Java
> > 11, but
> > > > > at this point this seems to be a wasteful effort if we decide to go
> > with
> > > > 17
> > > > > as I also warmly suggest.
> > > > >
> > > > > If there is anybody who thinks that moving to Java 17 is not a good
> > idea,
> > > > > please let us know immediately.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also is there anybody who could migrate the CI to Java 17? I'd
> really
> > > > > appreciate an help on this.
> > > > >
> > > > > As for the other 2 points (maven and spring-boot versions) I would
> > avoid
> > > > > having too many moving parts at this stage, so if version 3.8.7 for
> > maven
> > > > > and 3.0.5 for spring-boot are good enough I'd stick with them at
> > least
> > > > for
> > > > > now. We will have time to upgrade them after this migration will be
> > > > > finalized.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Mario
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2023/11/27 05:51:29 Toshiya Kobayashi wrote:
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We'd like to clarify some points for the migration.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1) Java version
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the zulip chat, we discussed that we would like to use Java 17
> > for
> > > > the
> > > > > > minimal version for Quarkus 3.5.2 migration.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
> https://kie.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/381961-drools-dev/topic/Quarkus.203.20migration/near/403922014
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If we have Java 17 as the minimal version, we don't have to
> > downgrade
> > > > the
> > > > > > quarkus-camel (3.0.0-M1 -> 2.15.0) and spring-boot (3.0.5 ->
> 2.6.6)
> > > > > > versions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do we agree on Java 17 as the minimal version?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2) Maven version
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This may not be very important.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Quarkus 3.5.2 supports "[3.8.2,)"
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > https://github.com/quarkusio/quarkus/blob/3.5.2/build-parent/pom.xml#L62
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and recommneds "3.9.5"
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > https://github.com/quarkusio/quarkus/blob/3.5.2/build-parent/pom.xml#L65
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Probably "3.9.5" would be nice, but supportable versions would be
> > > > fine. I
> > > > > > just wanted to note here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2) How to specify Java version in Jenkins CI (at the moment, for
> > PR.
> > > > But
> > > > > > others too)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can we specify the Jenkins Java version at the kogito-runtimes
> > side?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sorry, I'm not just knowledgeable about it. I tested
> > "BUILD_JDK_TOOL"
> > > > in
> > > > > > `.ci/jenkins/Jenkinsfile`, but I cannot even confirm if it's
> > effective.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-runtimes/pull/3292/files#diff-cc7fa003f07626ab6b3e955a24d87913c05aee8bb6c56fc05bf243f617fac962R21
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please kindly share the right way to specify that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 3) Spring Boot version
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pere mentioned
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > my guts say that we should upgrade if we have the oportunity
> but
> > I'm
> > > > > > affraid it could add more pain.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
> https://kie.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/381961-drools-dev/topic/Quarkus.203.20migration/near/403970518
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do we want to upgrade spring-boot higher than 3.0.5?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Toshiya
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 6:36 PM Mario Fusco <
> mariofu...@apache.org
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It would be best to agree on a branch name - if it's quarkus3
> > - and
> > > > > > > > generate special pipelines for that branch. So that we have
> > clear
> > > > > > > > separation. It would require branching of whole groups of
> > > > > repositories
> > > > > > > > (similarly as above - incubator-kie-kogito-apps and others).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Jan,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I agree on this. For now I replaced Toshiya's PR and now I have
> > 2 PRs
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > same branch name so CI could at least run against them, see:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-drools/pull/5589
> > > > > > >
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-runtimes/pull/3291
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > CI is still running, anyway Drools should be ok (or if it
> isn't I
> > > > will
> > > > > > > take care of it), while kogito-runtimes is finally compiling,
> but
> > > > > locally I
> > > > > > > have the 2 test failures that I'm pasting at the end of this
> > email.
> > > > I'm
> > > > > > > working on them, but in all honest I have zero knowledge of
> that
> > > > area,
> > > > > so I
> > > > > > > would really appreciate any help on them.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Mario
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [ERROR] Failed to execute goal
> > > > > > > org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-failsafe-plugin:3.1.2:verify
> > > > > > > (integration-test) on project
> > > > > > > kogito-quarkus-serverless-workflow-integration-test: There are
> > test
> > > > > > > failures.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [ERROR] Failures:
> > > > > > > [ERROR]   EventTimedoutIT.testTimedout:94
> > > > > > > expected: 0L
> > > > > > >  but was: 1L
> > > > > > > [ERROR]   ForEachRestIT.testForEachSubflow:62 1 expectation
> > failed.
> > > > > > > Expected status code <201> but was <400>.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [ERROR] Errors:
> > > > > > > [ERROR]
> >  CallbackStateTimeoutsIT.callbackStateTimeoutsExceeded:60 »
> > > > > > > ConditionTimeout Assertion condition defined as a
> > > > > > > org.kie.kogito.test.utils.ProcessInstancesRESTTestUtils 1
> > expectation
> > > > > > > failed.
> > > > > > > Expected status code <404> but was <200>.
> > > > > > >  within 10 seconds.
> > > > > > > [ERROR]
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > CallbackStateWithTimeoutsErrorHandlerIT.callbackStateTimeoutsExceeded:72
> > > > »
> > > > > > > ConditionTimeout Assertion condition defined as a
> > > > > > > org.kie.kogito.test.utils.ProcessInstancesRESTTestUtils 1
> > expectation
> > > > > > > failed.
> > > > > > > Expected status code <404> but was <200>.
> > > > > > >  within 10 seconds.
> > > > > > > [INFO]
> > > > > > > [ERROR] Tests run: 79, Failures: 2, Errors: 2, Skipped: 0
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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