Folks, replacing Redpanda with Apache Kafka will deteriorate our test cases since the first is a lightweight version of the Kafka implementation [1]
Our tests are already a pain to run, consuming too many resources from the infrastructure. Can't we just NOT distribute the IT sources? Alternatively, we can remove docker containers and have a Kafka Mock [2] re-engineering our test architecture slightly and use Apache/Kafka ONLY for very specific cases (if any). Let me know what you think, and I will open a vote thread. [1] https://www.redpanda.com/guides/kafka-alternatives-kafka-limitations [2] https://www.baeldung.com/kafka-mockproducer On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 6:37 AM Francisco Javier Tirado Sarti < [email protected]> wrote: > I vote for B), that way we remove the IT test, if any, from the source > distribution, which I think is good anyway. because we if w only distribute > the actual running code and its sources, we are reducing the size of the > distributable (and in SW, the smaller, if working, the better) > > > > On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 7:16 AM Toshiya Kobayashi <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Thank you, Andrea. > > > > As Alex suggested, we would: > > > > A) Replace redpanda with another container which is under an acceptable > > license (e.g. apache/kafka) > > or > > B) Exclude the relevant test cases from the source distribution > > > > It will be tracked by > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-issues/issues/1682 > > > > Thanks! > > Toshiya > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 7:37 PM Alex Porcelli <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Based on some inputs we got from IPMC when discussing Oracle JDBC > > > dependency, the test dependencies on CategoryX are also not allowed. > > > > > > The workaround could be that the source is not released and the > binaries > > > aren’t directly dependent on those. > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 5:28 AM Andrea Cosentino <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> In the past they were excluded. > > >> > > >> At some point the license changed and it was no more in the category > X. > > >> > > >> I don't remember the dependency anyway. > > >> > > >> Il giorno gio 12 dic 2024 alle ore 11:12 Toshiya Kobayashi < > > >> [email protected]> ha scritto: > > >> > > >> > Thank you for the reply, Andrea. > > >> > > > >> > > If the dependency is used just for testing and it's not part of > the > > >> > release, there are no impediments in using it. > > >> > > > > >> > > We were doing something similar in Apache Camel too for some > > >> > dependencies with license non-compliant with ASF rules. > > >> > > > >> > Are those dependencies excluded from the source zip of the Apache > > Camel > > >> > release? > > >> > > > >> > Thanks, > > >> > Toshiya > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 5:35 PM Andrea Cosentino <[email protected] > > > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > > >> >> Hello Toshiya, > > >> >> > > >> >> If the dependency is used just for testing and it's not part of the > > >> >> release, there are no impediments in using it. > > >> >> > > >> >> We were doing something similar in Apache Camel too for some > > >> dependencies > > >> >> with license non-compliant with ASF rules. > > >> >> > > >> >> Cheers. > > >> >> > > >> >> Il giorno mer 11 dic 2024 alle ore 09:30 Toshiya Kobayashi < > > >> >> [email protected]> ha scritto: > > >> >> > > >> >>> Hello, > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Currently we have GHA test failures with "pull access denied for > > >> >>> vectorized/redpanda" in kogito repos. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> I filed a GH issue. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-issues/issues/1682 > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Also I have filed a PR to replace "vectorized/redpanda:v21.11.8" > > with > > >> >>> "redpandadata/redpanda:v24.3.1". > > >> >>> > > >> >>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-runtimes/pull/3812 > > >> >>> > > >> >>> and now I'm waiting for CI. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Here I want to raise a point. redpanda is under Business Source > > >> License > > >> >>> 1.1. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > https://github.com/redpanda-data/redpanda/blob/dev/licenses/bsl.md > > >> >>> > > >> >>> , which is Category X ( > > >> >>> https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x). > > >> >>> > > >> >>> A question to our mentors; Claus, Andrea and Brian: > > >> >>> > > >> >>> redpanda is used for test infrastructure. Is it considered as > > >> >>> "dependency"? > > >> >>> > > >> >>> If yes, using redpanda is considered as "Has Category X > > dependencies" > > >> in > > >> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-469 ? > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Regards, > > >> >>> Toshiya > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > >> > > > > > >
