Thank you for the clarification. However my follow up question are:

- what exactly images are used by kubesmarts?
- What are the purpose of those images - I mean, are they useful outside
kubesmart deployment scope?
- Trying also to understand the relationship of SonataFlow and the
kubsmarts…. what are the differences between SonataFlow and the code hosted
by kubesmart?

-
Alex


On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 12:41 PM Fabrizio Antonangeli <
fantonang...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Alex,
> To summarize my proposal:
>
> * No sources will be moved out of kie-tools.
> * Currently, start.kubesmarts.org (a downstream DNS) is built using
> upstream sources and images. I propose changing this to use
> downstream sources and images, while keeping it under
> start.kubesmarts.org.
> * For the upstream version of the Serverless Logic Web Tools website,
> we suggest either creating a dedicated upstream DNS or incorporating
> it within sandbox.kie.org.
>
> Let me know if further details are needed.
> Best regards,
> Fabrizio
>
> On Tue, 2024-12-24 at 17:04 -0500, Alex Porcelli wrote:
> > Fabrizio,
> >
> > I’m sorry for being late here….
> >
> > Unfortunately it is not clear to me what exactly you are expecting.
> >
> > Kubesmart seems to be a downstream, and afaik, there is no legal or
> > trademark implications… so all good here.
> >
> > Now… if you plan to move things out of Apache to Kubesmart, this
> > becomes
> > more tricky… and this is actually not clear if this is your
> > intention.
> >
> > Would be possible to you elaborate what exactly you want to move?
> > Something
> > like:
> >
> > dns - origin - destination
> > whatever.org - org1 - org2
> >
> > artifact - repository - origin - destinatio
> > containerA - kie-tools - Apache - Org2
> >
> > Regards,
> > _____________
> > Alex Porcelli
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 8:07 AM Fabrizio Antonangeli <
> > fantonang...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Community,
> > > I would like to propose a temporary adjustment regarding the
> > > publishing
> > > and DNS management of the Serverless Logic Sandbox website.
> > > BackgroundCurrently, the community-facing website (
> > > https://start.kubesmarts.org)
> > > is using the 0.32.0 image version. However, the latest upstream
> > > image
> > > tagged as 10.0.0 is only available in DockerHub under the Apache
> > > organization:
> > >  * Apache DockerHub: apache/incubator-kie-serverless-logic-web-
> > > tools-
> > >    swf-dev-mode [2]
> > >  * Old KIE Tools Quay:
> > >    kie-tools/serverless-logic-web-tools-swf-dev-mode-image [3]
> > >  * Kubesmarts Quay: kubesmarts/incubator-kie-serverless-logic-web-
> > >    tools-swf-dev-mode [1]
> > > Historically, before moving to Apache, Kubesmarts images were
> > > published
> > > under the KIE Tools Quay, which now doesn’t have 10.0.0 image tags.
> > > Since the current release process has changed, this workflow no
> > > longer
> > > exists.
> > > ProposalTo address the current issues and clarify ownership, I
> > > propose the
> > > following steps:
> > >    1. Migrate Publishing Procedure to Kubesmarts group
> > >        - Change the publishing process for the Kubesmarts website
> > > to use
> > > our
> > >          downstream source and downstream images. This aligns with
> > > our
> > >          internal needs and ensures we have control over the images
> > > and
> > >          versions being used.
> > >    2. Clarify DNS Ownership
> > >        - The community should manage its own DNS, and we propose
> > > taking
> > > full
> > >          ownership of the Kubesmarts DNS. This approach separates
> > > Red Hat's
> > >          requirements from the community's work while providing a
> > > clear
> > >          structure for future contributions.
> > >    3. Make a separate proposal for upstream DNS
> > >        - We can develop a separate proposal for the upstream DNS or
> > >          incorporate SLWT in the Sandbox using only upstream images
> > >
> > > Please share your thoughts.
> > >
> > > [1]  kubesmarts/incubator-kie-serverless-logic-web-tools-swf-dev-
> > > mode
> > >
> > >
> https://quay.io/repository/kubesmarts/incubator-kie-serverless-logic-web-tools-swf-dev-mode?tab=tags
> > > [2]  apache/incubator-kie-serverless-logic-web-tools-swf-dev-mode
> > >
> > >
> https://hub.docker.com/r/apache/incubator-kie-serverless-logic-web-tools-swf-dev-mode/tags
> > > [3] kie-tools/serverless-logic-web-tools-swf-dev-mode-image
> > >
> > >
> https://quay.io/repository/kie-tools/serverless-logic-web-tools-swf-dev-mode-image?tab=tags
> > >
>
>

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