Yes. Main priority should be to have a flow of releases. Then in those
releases we can work towards graduation.
No releases = dead project.

Toni

On Sat, Jan 11, 2025 at 12:03 AM Tiago Bento <tiagobe...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I've started the Release Procedure document for 10.1:
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/15V-1e62bmmWeOdFUnSJHymPYoeb0TTwp0bhxPuJn4zo/edit?usp=sharing
> .
>
> Anyone with the link can comment and if you'd like to gain Editor
> access please reach out to me.
>
> I'd also like to point out that I created the `target:10.1.0` label in
> the 5 repos that are currently part of the Release Procedure for 10.1,
> plus the apache/incubator-kie-issues repo.
>
> I took the liberty to also add the label to some of the issues I
> consider blockers for this release, and I suggest everyone does the
> same for whatever they want to include in 10.1.0. After a while (not
> sure how long), we can discuss each issue individually and reassess if
> they should be considered blockers for 10.1.0 or not.
>
> We currently don't have any consensus on how to proceed regarding
> Documentation, Websites, or Examples, and therefore I didn't include
> those in the Release Procedure for 10.1 yet, except for some soft
> mentions in the artifacts list annotated with "TODO", "TBD", or
> something similar.
>
> Taking also the opportunity to mention that moving Documentation,
> Websites, and/or Examples to `kie-tools` remains a viable option for a
> long-term solution that doesn't involve tinkering with "the CI" and
> its outdated/black-box systems that no one really wants to take
> ownership of (namely `build-chain` or "the Kogito framework" on Apache
> Jenkins). I make myself available to do ALL the work necessary to make
> those artifacts be permanently part of  `kie-tools` and released as
> part of Apache KIE, provided we get everyone on board. I personally
> think this is a wonderful opportunity to provide an immense amount of
> value and material to our users, who have already manifested their
> confusion in regards to Documentation, Websites, and Examples in some
> of our communication channels.
>
> Links for issues containing the `target:10.1.0` label for all relevant
> repos:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-issues/labels/target%3A10.1.0
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-drools/labels/target%3A10.1.0
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-optaplanner/labels/target%3A10.1.0
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-runtimes/labels/target%3A10.1.0
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-apps/labels/target%3A10.1.0
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-tools/labels/target%3A10.1.0
>
> Regards,
>
> Tiago Bento
>
> On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 3:45 PM Tibor Zimányi <tzima...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > +1 for starting work on the next release.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Tibor
> >
> > Dňa pi 10. 1. 2025, 19:36 Alex Porcelli <porce...@apache.org>
> napísal(a):
> >
> > > I’d like to propose we begin the Apache KIE 10.1.0 release process as
> > > soon as possible.
> > >
> > > The primary goal is to refine the release process and deliver a more
> > > up-to-date version, as 10.0.0—branched in July 2024—reflects a
> > > codebase that’s now over six months old. A refreshed release would
> > > bring the latest fixes and improvements to our users and align with
> > > recent contributions.
> > >
> > > The only ongoing work that might be included is the Quarkus LTS
> > > upgrade to 3.15.x, but I wouldn’t consider this a blocker for the
> > > release.
> > >
> > > Note: After this release, as in discussion in this thread [1], I
> > > propose introducing milestones as blocker in each release to address
> > > issues identified for graduation [2], ensuring a structured path
> > > forward.
> > >
> > > Looking forward to your feedback and input to make this release a
> success.
> > >
> > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/1923vybp0p675c6pjk7bgx45pmj716xm
> > > [2] https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-issues/issues/1707
> > >
> > > -
> > > Alex
> > >
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