Hello, Not late. I will keep this open for a while before a vote.
The default Apache Guideline has even the code change as a Lazy Consensus vote. Default Project Guidelines - INCUBATOR - Apache Software Foundation <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/Default+Project+Guidelines> Consensus Approval adds veto and that is something we should try to avoid as much as possible. It is even tricky on PMC/PPMC actions, but based on what PMC votes a veto can help us to not get vendor locked. ( Or get us into that lock, hopefully our PMC members get some diversity over time. ) Toni On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 11:56 AM Gabriele Cardosi <gabriele.card...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Tony, > first of all, many thanks for all your efforts and dedication! > I'm late on the discussion, but reading the RTC table, IIUC, it seems that > for -> > > A decision on a specific proposal to alter KIE in a significant way. > > Includes adding or removing code bases and repositories. > > > > only Majority Approval is required. I've the impression, on the other side, > that this would be exactly the case where Consensus Approval would be > needed. > > WDYT ? > > > Il giorno mer 2 apr 2025 alle ore 10:11 Toni Rikkola > <trikk...@redhat.com.invalid> ha scritto: > > > Good point. I changed "Who can vote" to "Who has binding vote" to > clarify. > > The goal is to give the community more power on community actions, but > also > > you can vote even if your vote is not binding. Non-binding votes are > > allowed to signal wans, needs and intentions. > > > > Toni > > > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 5:35 AM Toshiya Kobayashi < > > toshiyakobaya...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Thank you, Toni! > > > > > > The KIE version guidelines introduce good clarifications to the default > > > one. > > > > > > One question: > > > > > > Is "binding" defined? > > > > > > A) Always only PMC members have binding votes. (like > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html#binding-votes) > > > > > > or > > > > > > B) "Who can vote" in the table have binding vote > > > > > > I guess it's B), but it's better to mention that in the guide. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Toshiya > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2025 at 7:11 PM Toni Rikkola <t...@rikkola.net> wrote: > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > Based on comments from our mentor I am redoing the ByLaws proposal as > > > > this Guidelines proposal. The back story is in the wiki page > comments. > > > > > > > > Link to what the proposed wiki page would look like: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KIE/%5BPROPOSAL%5D+Basic+Apache+KIE+Guidelines > > > > > > > > The proposal page contains the Apache default guideline matching this > > > > page. Please review and let me know if the current version is good to > > > > go. > > > > > > > > Toni Rikkola > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@kie.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@kie.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
