Thank you, Gabriele!

BPMN experts, can BPMN xsd files be handled in the same way as DMN?

Toshiya


On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 1:27 AM Tiago Bento <tiagobe...@apache.org> wrote:

> Thanks Toshiya for bringing this up and Gabriele for starting to address
> it.
>
> I'll wait until the XSDs are all available inside 1st party JARs so
> that I can update `kie-tools` to consume the XSDs from these JARs
> instead of versioning copies of the XSDs directly in the source code.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tiago Bento
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 9:12 AM Gabriele Cardosi
> <gabriele.card...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Toshiya,
> > FYI:
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-drools/pull/6311
> >
> > Il giorno mer 16 apr 2025 alle ore 11:29 Toshiya Kobayashi <
> > toshiyakobaya...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
> >
> > > Thank you, Gabriele!
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 4:44 PM Gabriele Cardosi <
> > > gabriele.card...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Toshiya,
> > > > regarding DMN, those xsd are used at both test time and runtime.
> > > > SInce those are used in multiple places, we have to reduce the times
> they
> > > > get downloaded.
> > > > I'll try to experiment the creation and consumption of a module that:
> > > >
> > > > 1. download them at compile time
> > > > 2. package them in final artifact
> > > >
> > > > Then, those files won't be in the codebase, but only on the generated
> > > > artifact.
> > > > Other modules should depend on the above, and read xsd from it.
> > > >
> > > > We have done a similar approach with kie-dmn-test-resources, but I
> need
> > > > some time to experiment how to download files at compile time -
> hoping to
> > > > find a clean solution.
> > > >
> > > > Best
> > > >
> > > > Gabriele
> > > >
> > > > Il giorno mer 16 apr 2025 alle ore 05:09 Toshiya Kobayashi <
> > > > toshiyakobaya...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > We have a pending license issue with DMN and BPMN. To be specific,
> we
> > > > need
> > > > > to confirm the license applied to DMN/BPMN xsd files.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-690
> > > > >
> > > > > I sent forms/emails to i...@omg.org ,
> > > > > https://www.omg.org/spec/contact?i=DMN/1.5 and
> > > > > https://www.omg.org/spec/contact?i=BPMN/2.0 , but I haven't got
> any
> > > > reply.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tibor shared his thought,
> > > > >
> > > > > > I can ask in OMG, however maybe a better solution would be to not
> > > have
> > > > > those files in the code. The xsds are publicly available, so I
> guess if
> > > > > e.g. a test needs those, it should be able to download it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can DMN and BPMN experts check if it's feasible (= remove xsd files
> > > from
> > > > > code base)?
> > > > >
> > > > > The files are listed in the GH issue.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-issues/issues/1926
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > Toshiya
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
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