I don’t disagree with proposal, it very well may be the correct solution, 
however, still having hibernate version < 7 is going to be an issue for 
releases. I wonder if using a pre-released version of SB 4 would be acceptable 
until it is released. Maybe target SB 4 for v11, keep doing v10 releases in the 
meantime?

On 2025/09/27 19:16:55 Gabriele Cardosi wrote:
> Hi all,
> about the issue of the clashing versions, I would like to remind you all
> that the proposal made by Paolo Bizzarri [1] would have solved that once
> and for all, months ago, and it won't even be a big effort, if I remember
> correctly.
> Instead, that discussion ended in nothing, polluted by unrelated questions
> and discussion.
> Maybe a good time to fix that problem finally, instead of wasting time for
> other workarounds ?
> 
> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/qpt59fn2jhyjkg4c2v15sjrrc2624wc8
> 
> Regards
> 
> Gabriele
> 
> 
> 
> Il giorno sab 27 set 2025 alle ore 18:49 Tiago Bento <[email protected]>
> ha scritto:
> 
> > Hi Alex,
> >
> > Thanks for creating this thread. As a first step I believe we need to bring
> > all the work that was done in Jenkins regarding our release automation in
> > the 10.1.x branches into the main branch, so we don’t have to redo all the
> > fixes that we did for 10.1.
> >
> > I created the Release Procedure document for 10.2 [1] (a direct copy from
> > 10.1). I added a few people as Editors already, but anyone who’s a
> > committer can be added as editor, just let me know.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Tiago Bento
> >
> > [1]
> >
> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wp9WWDJb6K5gyFddgC--7TSgIRpvxL7NrZgS4wAzGoE/edit?usp=drivesdk
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 27, 2025 at 09:44 Alex Porcelli <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I want to start a thread so we can organize around a 10.2.0 release.
> > > At the moment we are still blocked [1], but there has been some
> > > important movement in the ecosystem.
> > >
> > > The new Quarkus LTS just landed [2], already with Hibernate 7 (under
> > > ASL license). On the other hand, Spring Boot 3.x is still on Hibernate
> > > 6 [3], so there is a potential clash to keep in mind. Spring Boot 4 is
> > > close to release [4] and will align with Hibernate 7, which might open
> > > a good path forward.
> > >
> > > If we address the current blockers together with Hibernate 7, we are
> > > in a strong position. At that point the remaining issues are minimal
> > > and could be targeted right after 10.2.0, helping us finally move
> > > toward graduation.
> > >
> > > I would love to hear thoughts from the community and start shaping an
> > > execution plan.
> > >
> > > (thank you Jason for sparking the release topic on a private email
> > > exchange!)
> > >
> > > [1] - https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-tools/issues/3196
> > > [2] - https://quarkus.io/blog/quarkus-3-27-released/
> > > [3] -
> > https://github.com/spring-projects/spring-boot/releases/tag/v3.4.10
> > > and https://github.com/spring-projects/spring-boot/releases/tag/v3.5.6
> > > [4] -
> > > https://github.com/spring-projects/spring-boot/releases/tag/v4.0.0-M3
> > >
> > > -
> > > Alex
> > >
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