I can see how that could be useful, but it's not really what I need when I
search through a project's mailing list archives today. Bug reports are
usually high-level enough that I can grok them, but implementation details
(i.e. code reviews) are too much and I'd prefer to exclude them.

As for Kudu itself, well, I wouldn't use the mailing list archives anyway,
because I understand the details and also know how to go straight to the
source of truth (i.e. JIRA for bug reports, gerrit for code reviews). But I
imagine folks less familiar with a project would feel the way I do: bug
reports may be understandable, but code reviews are too detailed.





On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 9:52 PM, Todd Lipcon <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Adar Dembo <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > As you mentioned, my vote is for a new mailing list to capture code
> > reviews. My arguments are:
> > 1) It's more predictable for newcomers (JIRA to issues@, gerrit to
> > reviews@,
> > etc.).
> > 2) It's friendlier to mailing list archivers, where the search tools
> often
> > aren't great and separation of issues from code reviews simplifies
> 'manual'
> > searching.
> >
> >
> But if you're searching, wouldn't you want to see results from both code
> reviews and bug discussion, given a lot of bug details end up in commit
> messages and code review conversation?
>
>
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Jean-Daniel Cryans <
> [email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I'd be in favor of using issues@, and only create reviews@ if folks
> > > complain it's still not good enough.
> > >
> > > J-D
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Todd Lipcon <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > We discussed this a month or two ago but I've been delinquent in
> > pushing
> > > > this forward. We all seemed to agree that it would be good to move
> the
> > > > gerrit traffic off of dev@ so that the list is easier to subscribe
> to
> > > and
> > > > follow for newcomers who might not be interested in every revision of
> > > every
> > > > patch in flight (100+ emails/week). But, we didn't quite settle where
> > to
> > > > move it *to*.
> > > >
> > > > There were two options:
> > > >
> > > > 1) use the existing issues@ list
> > > > 2) use a new reviews@ list
> > > >
> > > > My preference is towards using issues@ because oftentimes when
> someone
> > > is
> > > > fixing a bug or making a small improvement, they don't necessarily
> > > create a
> > > > new JIRA. So, I'm not sure why someone would want to subscribe to
> just
> > > JIRA
> > > > but not gerrit (or vice versa). Given that Gerrit already provides an
> > > easy
> > > > filtering mechanism (eg 'kudu-cr' in the subject line) people can
> > always
> > > > separate them back out.
> > > >
> > > > Adar mentioned that he prefers reviews@ to be more 'consistent',
> > though
> > > > I'll let him pipe up with his rationale.
> > > >
> > > > I don't think we need a formal vote, but opinions solicited! Would be
> > > great
> > > > to wrap this up this week so we can report the progress back on our
> > > > upcoming podling report.
> > > >
> > > > -Todd
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Todd Lipcon
> Software Engineer, Cloudera
>

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