Andreas Hartmann wrote:

Michael Wechner wrote:

[...]

which I think should apply for all "components" working on resource
types:
Creator
Editor
Indexer
Publisher
LinkRewriter
....


If we allow this, we would also need a resource-type specific Mover,
Copier, Deleter, Deactivator, Revisioner, ...


similar to the source interface ;-)


It's not really similar. The source interface is a single entry point
to access resources using a protocol. There are no cross-connections
if you use the concept consequently (i.e., always use the protocol and
therefore the source implementation to access these resources)

The components mentioned by Josias have multiple cross-connections.
Providing a specific implementation for one of them requires to
provide implementations for the others as well.


I don't fully understand. Can you give an example?



The basic question seems to be whether Lenya knows what a document is or not (and how to move it around, for example). So far, a document is just
an xml file.


that's a common misunderstanding


Josias just pointed out how it is implemented today.
But I guess all of us are aware that we'd like to change that.


and that's what I meant, let's improve it ...



It could be extended to a binary file, or even multiple
files, while Lenya still knows what a document is.


that's why we have the concept of a resource type

But if we allow that a document may be "anything", and only the resource
type knows what it is, the complexity seems to grow quite a lot (of
course the flexibility would increase, too). It might also lead to
duplication of knowledge if each resource type has e.g. its own
publisher.


you can always provide default implementations


But that doesn't reduce the complexity.


I think it does. In probably most cases you don't have to implement it yourself
but pick an existing one

If implementing a custom
resource type means to implement all these mentioned components,
it means to virtually implement a document management system for
each advanced and complex resource type.


yes, but what is the alternative? And as said above I don't think that's a problem because of the argument above. Also one can offer tools to simplify the process, just as
for instance there are tools to create XML Schemas, etc.

Michi


-- Andreas



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