Michael Ralston wrote


- I think the mission of Apache Lenya needs be more detailed, e.g.
framework with out of the box samples, scalable, performant, backwards
compatible, ... I think we really need to define our goals resp. link
to a document which is defining the goals explicitely, otherwise I am
afraid this whole thing is pointless.

I think the current mission statement is the most concise possible definition of what Lenya is. The mission statement addresses the two singly most important aspect of Lenya - open source content management - and separation of content and presentation.

This definition does not get bogged down in the details of how this is to be accomplished. I think maybe under that mission statement there could be a link to another page which explains how we go about accomplishing this goal.


that's what I suggested

But as a simple concise definition of what Lenya's core mission is, I think the statement is perfect.


why not remove "separation of content and presentation" as well then?


Without being negative, but generally speaking I think people haven't really
read this document closely and hence just say +1. I hope I am wrong.

I've read the document closely. I don't understand some of the issues you have raised,


which ones?

I think this approach would lead to endless months of discussion without actually committing to anything. The proposed guidelines are quite large, yet you have only given 10 objections to them. Even if these are just the first 10 things you have had time to raise, should we discard the rest of the document and start from nothing?


yep

That sounds like a complete waste of time in my opinion.


we do have time



If the project guidelines were a piece of software, would you delay releasing it completely until it was completely bug free and everybody agreed that it operated exactly the way they wanted?


there will always be bugs, and also the guidelines will have bugs even if started from scratch and time will change things.

Or would you release the software, and then improve upon it with each new release? Maybe this is a silly question as Lenya hasn't had a new release for over a year... and maybe this is the heart of the problem with the Lenya community.


well, I don't think you can compare these two things, but yes, we should try to get out this release ...

Anyway, I am happy to accept the decision of the majority despite I have a different opinion.

Thanks

Michi



Michael R

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