>- see footer for list info -<
I have a client who is currently using commidea, can't recommend them
really support is bad pricing is not good either and they don't support
CV2 security number and billing address security checks in there basic
ICP packgage, upgrading to these features will cost �650 setup just to
set these fraud features up and they can't schedule it in untill january
2005!! Unacceptable, therefore I been looking at other payment gateway
providers.

I've been looking at www.protx.com and the pricing looks great �20per
month for less than 1000 transactions per quarter or 10p per transaction
for over 1000 transactions per quarter.

We would look at VSP direct integration
(http://www.protx.com/products/aboutvsp.asp)

The client has already had a converastion directly and the initial
response has been good, but they are not prepared to give out references
to existing clients.

The client has their own merchant account and we need to take payment
details on a page on the clients server then pass them through the
paymentment gateway over SSL (the client also has their own SSL
certificate on their server)

Can anyone just sum up the service you get from protx, support is
especially important, I do like the status page
http://www.protx.com/services/monitorvsp.asp Which kinda gives me
confidence in there systems, but my client seems to think that it's a
too good to be true scenario, with the price being so low.

How does it compare to netbankx? As at the moment this would be the
second choice for our clients payment gateway.


Worldpay isn't a solution as they only offer integration through a
payment page on the worldpay server (which you can customise to a
certain extent) but you can't use your own SSL certificate.


Jason Brown
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www.monochrome.co.uk




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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 14:16:27 -0000 
From: Mark Smyth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] Credit Card Payments
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I'd have to agree

I've used worldpay before with no problems at all

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>- see footer for list info -<
Erm Worldpay is about simple as it gets.
 

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> Sent: 08 November 2004 13:32
> To: Allan Cliff - CFUG Spain; Coldfusion Development
> Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] Credit Card Payments
> 
> >- see footer for list info -<
> NOT commidea
> NOT worldpay
> 
> I have heard good things about netbanx
> 
> 
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> Subject: [CF-Dev] Credit Card Payments
> 
> 
> >- see footer for list info -<
> Could someone recommend an online credit card payment company which 
> has an interface that works easily with CFMX. Preferably one that you 
> have used yourself and it has all gone smoothly.
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Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 14:21:57 +0000
From: "Mark Woods" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [CF-Dev] Changing Databases
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>Anyone know how I would go about changing a database from MySql to SQL.

Have a look at SQLPorter for migrating the database itself (it costs,
but 
not a fortune when you compare with the cost of doing it yourself). As
for 
your SQL-in-CFML code, assuming you've not hesitated to use MySQL
specific 
syntax in the past, buy a copy of SQL in a nutshell by O'Reilly and get 
cracking on converting the code ;)


Mark


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 14:34:27 -0000
From: "Tim Blair" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] Credit Card Payments
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> I can second http://www.protx.com

Thirded for Protx.  Although they did have problems last week with some
*serious* DDoS attacks, and the effects are still hanging over this week
too...

They've recently released a new admin system which makes setting things
up nice and easy; I've found their email support is OK, but I'm usually
impatient and call them anyway!

The error handling could be better (they know it and are working on it)
in that you get the same status back if there was an error which caused
the payment not to occur, or if the payment was registered but something
else went wrong, so sometimes you dn't know if a payment has gone
through successfully or not.

In general though, big thumbs up.  We've used them for two clients and
just about to go for a third (one of which has taken well over �100,000
through Protx this year).

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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 20:13:37 -0000
From: "Russ Michaels \(Snake\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] Credit Card Payments
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'Coldfusion Development'"
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kerry
> Sent: 08 November 2004 13:51
> To: Coldfusion Development
> Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] Credit Card Payments
> 
> >- see footer for list info -<
> 1) the 2 hour delay that occurs between changing a file on 
> the server and the change appearing live

Never had this problem, changes to the worldpay junior pages appear
right
away.
> 
> 2) the over zealous security clearance required just to 
> install their invisible package

If yoiur talking abou the COM integration. I just download it and
install it
on my  server, that's it.
> 
> 3) the 3 step process users have to go through once on the 
> worldpay site

Nice and simple, good for thick, non web savvy customers, never had any
complaints about it.


> 
> 
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> Sent: 08 November 2004 13:40
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Coldfusion Development
> Subject: Re: [CF-Dev] Credit Card Payments
> 
> 
> Just out of interest, apart from being a bit pricey, what 
> don't you like about WorldPay?
> 
> Nick
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
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> 
> 
> > >- see footer for list info -<
> > NOT commidea
> > NOT worldpay
> >
> > I have heard good things about netbanx
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
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> >
> >
> > >- see footer for list info -<
> > Could someone recommend an online credit card payment company which 
> > has an interface that works easily with CFMX.
> > Preferably one that you have used yourself and it has all 
> gone smoothly.
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> > Thanks
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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 20:14:39 -0000
From: "Russ Michaels \(Snake\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] Credit Card Payments
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They are also supported in our HELM control panel for auto repeat
billing,
which is useful.

Russ
 

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> >- see footer for list info -<
> I can second http://www.protx.com
> 
> I have used them before on CFMX with complete ease. Charging 
> structure is also very simple to understand etc.
> 
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> >>- see footer for list info -<
> >I've seen ProtX http://www.protx.com used with CF in the 
> past and it has excellent integration capabilities with all 
> major scripting languages.
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Mike
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 10:09:46 -0000
From: "Stephen Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [CF-Dev] Developing a query building tool
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Hi,

I am trying to build a query tool, where the user can select certain
criteria within a form, then submit this form and they should then get a
result set. Now they can enter any of the form fields to retrieve the
data
they are looking for.

Has anyone built something like this, the problem I can see is that the
query needs to be very flexible as anything can be passed in, and there
is
the chance that extra form fields could be set up for the user to search
against.

I am working on CF5 so components are out of the question, also does
anyone
know of how I can build something (e.g. custom tags) that give you
similar
functionality of components, I like components, but we are using CF5 for
this site.

Cheers 

Stephen

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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 10:32:06 -0000
From: "Russ Michaels \(Snake\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] Developing a query building tool
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Yep I have built a dynamic query builder.

Pretty simple really, just a have a select list of the tables you want
to
query on, then populate a list with the columns, and have a list with
search
criteria such as WHERE, AND, OR, IN etc and simply build the query from
this.

If you using SQL server then you may want to have a look at English
Query
Language, as this allows non technical people to get reports from a
database
using normal english language.
 

Russ



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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 10:45:04 -0000
From: "Stephen Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] Developing a query building tool
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Thanks Russ,

Nice idea, any ideas about getting component like functionality into
CF5?


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>- see footer for list info -<
Yep I have built a dynamic query builder.

Pretty simple really, just a have a select list of the tables you want
to
query on, then populate a list with the columns, and have a list with
search
criteria such as WHERE, AND, OR, IN etc and simply build the query from
this.

If you using SQL server then you may want to have a look at English
Query
Language, as this allows non technical people to get reports from a
database
using normal english language.


Russ


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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 11:15:06 -0000
From: "Russ Michaels \(Snake\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] Developing a query building tool
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A custom tag is essentially the same thing really, at least for this
purpose.

Russ 

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> >- see footer for list info -<
> Thanks Russ,
> 
> Nice idea, any ideas about getting component like 
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> 
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
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> Russ Michaels
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> 
> >- see footer for list info -<
> Yep I have built a dynamic query builder.
> 
> Pretty simple really, just a have a select list of the tables 
> you want to query on, then populate a list with the columns, 
> and have a list with search criteria such as WHERE, AND, OR, 
> IN etc and simply build the query from this.
> 
> If you using SQL server then you may want to have a look at 
> English Query Language, as this allows non technical people 
> to get reports from a database using normal english language.
> 
> 
> Russ
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