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> the some of the CF code out there is appalling.

I'm pretty sure all of us have written stuff like that in out dark and 
dangerous pasts! :)

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  From: Mark Woods 
  To: Coldfusion Development 
  Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:19 AM
  Subject: Re: [CF-Dev] Starting Farcry


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  >    * too many CMS I've seen are perplexing for the user (Paul I take
  >      your point but disagree, CMS should be for non-technical users,
  >      techie stuff can be added for special authorised tech heads)

  Our customers are generally pretty clueless about technology, yet they are 
  comfortable using Speck. When they log in to manage their site, they do no 
  log in to a separate administration area To edit content, they just 
  navigate to the page they want to edit, switch on the admin links and click 
  edit on the block of content they want to edit. There is no separate 
  "administration" site, something which I think confuses non-technical users.


  >    * most of us I bet have had to debug/ rebuild someone else's CMS and
  >      lost a lot of hair

  Speck was designed as a framework to expand and does not attempt to solve 
  all content management problems out of the box. The tag library allows the 
  system to be expanded without hacking into the core framework files. This 
  should avoid the need to rebuild, developers are more likely to want to 
  expand the system to meet their exact requirements rather than hack the 
  existing code.

  As for debugging, well, errors are generally handled by the application and 
  the error reporting should make it easy enough to identify the offending 
  code. I think Speck is very well designed and implemented in comparison to 
  many other CF apps I've seen. Tracking down the cause of unhandled 
  exceptions is a lot easier when code is well written within some kind of 
  architecture rather than just all over the place. I've had the hassle 
  myself of having to implement or fix/hack other people CF apps in the past 
  and oh my God, the some of the CF code out there is appalling.

  Right, I'll shut up now, I just wanted to address the Damian's points.


  Mark

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