>- see footer for list info -< Surely if u have paid them, you must know who they are and have something to provide police. Attackers do not normally contact u and say my name is Billy bob Thornton, here's my bank details, pay me to stop the dos attack. So how did you pay them?
> -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tomo > Sent: 22 April 2005 14:13 > To: Coldfusion Development > Subject: Re: [CF-Dev] cfhttp error > > >- see footer for list info -< > which was the point I was going to make... you might as well > just pay them a salary... what's my job??? "I do nothing, as > I can extort money from people with threats of DOS attacks" > > I'm assuming if they come back, the company will pay again as > it's cheaper to fund criminals than stop them.... > > Adrian Lynch wrote: > >>- see footer for list info -< > > > > Is anyone else reading this with concern? Surely it's a > slippery slope > > if you pay criminals extortion/blackmail money?! What will > you do if > > they come back again? > > > > Ade > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allan Cliff > > Sent: 22 April 2005 09:54 > > To: CF Developer > > Subject: Re: [CF-Dev] cfhttp error > > > > > > > >>- see footer for list info -< > > > > By the way its a way cheaper to pay them off than the > infrastructure > > needed to combat a DDOS attack. > > Obviously what they are doing is illegal and I am not saying you > > should pay but the fact is it could cost you about �20000 a year in > > hardware/bandwidth/etc for a BASIC defence and �500/�1000 > to pay them off. > > We got attacked twice in two years and spent the money on > DDOS defence > > and when they attacked again we couldn't handle it. > > Look at the numbers and make your choice. > > Maybe if the companies are bigger they will ask for more money, I > > don't know. > > > > Remember you always depend on your upstream router cos when you get > > attacked you have to ask them to start filtering to stop the attack > > reaching you. If they don't respond then 100Mb can be expensive! > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Tomo > > To: Allan Cliff ; Coldfusion Development > > Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 10:03 AM > > Subject: Re: [CF-Dev] cfhttp error > > > > > > are you saying you paid these people to stop the attack? > > > > Allan Cliff wrote: > > >>- see footer for list info -< > > > > > > We have been DDOSsed and we had to pay to make them stop. > > > The second time we put in some hardware to stop it with a 100Mb > > burstable > > > line behind and it even filled that up (estimated at a > 150Mb attack). > > Time > > > to pay again. > > > We were only a small company and could not do anything > to stop it. > > It was > > > just out of our league. > > > Maybe a company like M$ would have the bandwidth to cope?!? > > > But someone like protx probably wouldn't have more than 100Mb. > > Even if you > > > do have that bandwidth, IP changes / DNS changes the > DDosers are > > usually > > > only 15 minutes behind you. > > > > > > You then depend on the upline routers to filter stuff > out and unless you > > > have plenty of influence they aren't interested, and if > they are > > you have to > > > find the person who knows how to configure the filters. They > > prefer to block > > > calls to the whole domain rather than filter out the > crappy packets. > > > > > > Some 12 year old romanians have nothing better to do! LOL. > > > My 2p worth > > > > > > Allan > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.2 - Release Date: > 21/04/2005 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > For details on ALL mailing lists and for joining or leaving > lists, go > > to http://list.cfdeveloper.co.uk/mailman/listinfo > > > > -- > > CFDeveloper Sponsors:- > > > >>- Hosting provided by www.cfmxhosting.co.uk -< > >>- Forum provided by www.fusetalk.com -< > >>- DHTML Menus provided by www.APYCOM.com -< > >>- Lists hosted by www.Gradwell.com -< > >>- CFdeveloper is run by Russ Michaels, feel free to volunteer your > >>help -< > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > For details on ALL mailing lists and for joining or leaving > lists, go to http://list.cfdeveloper.co.uk/mailman/listinfo > > -- > CFDeveloper Sponsors:- > >- Hosting provided by www.cfmxhosting.co.uk -< > >- Forum provided by www.fusetalk.com -< > >- DHTML Menus provided by www.APYCOM.com -< > >- Lists hosted by www.Gradwell.com -< > >- CFdeveloper is run by Russ Michaels, feel free to > volunteer your help > >-< > _______________________________________________ For details on ALL mailing lists and for joining or leaving lists, go to http://list.cfdeveloper.co.uk/mailman/listinfo -- CFDeveloper Sponsors:- >- Hosting provided by www.cfmxhosting.co.uk -< >- Forum provided by www.fusetalk.com -< >- DHTML Menus provided by www.APYCOM.com -< >- Lists hosted by www.Gradwell.com -< >- CFdeveloper is run by Russ Michaels, feel free to volunteer your help -<
