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Well I have heard from someone that was speaking to Macromedia recently,
that they openly admitted to him that they can't be bothered with anyone
spending less than $50k
So from a support level perspective, there is another good reason for me. I
have been fed up with Macromedia's disregard for their customers for some
time.
 
Russ

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From: Niklas Richardson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 02 December 2005 15:29
To: Russ Michaels
Subject: Re: blue dragon


I don't disagree that BD is very attractive price wise.  I guess, the point
I wanted to make is that if you were really interested in the Enterprise,
then the price difference probably isn't enough.




On 02/12/05, Russ Michaels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

Well New Atlanta also have a hosters discount, MM don't.
And as for the prices.
 
Blue Dragon J2EE or .Net 2cpu $4699 (£2610)
Macromedia ColdFusion MX Enterprise £4289
Saving £1679
 
Blue Dragon JX $899 (£499)
Coldfusion MX Standard    £929
Saving £430
 
Quite a considerable difference. Also there is the fact that deploying
Enterprise costs you a lot more in hardware, each instance of JRUN will cost
you 512MB RAM, so your only liklely to get 4-6 instances on the average
server.
Blue Dragon J2EE using servlet exec has a much smaller footprint, and BD.NET
much smaller still as you don't have deploy new instances, it is handled by
the .NET application pooling and isolation. So you can have dozens of
isolated instances of BD.
 
If your just running CFMX pro and a few sites, then it probbaly doesn't make
difference to you, but if your doing anything serious with enterprise level
it can surely save you a lot of money per server.
 
 
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Russ

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From: Niklas Richardson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 02 December 2005 11:07
To: Coldfusion Development
Subject: Re: [CF-Dev] CF7 doesn't install on Win2003 with SP1


Okay, so CFMX Enterprise is £4,289 (ex VAT) at the moment for 2 CPUs.  And
that's also includes a fully licenced JRun.

CFMX Standard is £929 (ex VAT) for 2 CPUs.

These prices also don't take into consideration any discount you might get
from buying from a reseller either.  Where you could be looking at maybe 10%
off.

In any case, $5,000 (~£2,900) for 2 CPU BlueDragon isn't too bad for what
you get, but then the difference isn't too huge if you want Enterprise
(another ~£1,400).  What's £1,400 when you're already spending nearly
£3,000!!! ;)

Anyways, I thought the BlueDragon presentation was really great, so I'm not
being CF biased.  But I don't think the pricing is enough of an argument to
go with BlueDragon.  If it was the same price as CFMX Standard, then
perhaps.

Anyways, my 2p.

Cheers

Niklas






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Niklas Richardson
Prismix Ltd

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