Yes, me too. Perhaps neil has written a special database addon that
makes it faster than system memory.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Martin [mailto:steve.martin@;sequence.co.uk] 
> Sent: 07 November 2002 10:15
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Online Users
> 
> 
> I'd still be interested to hear your rationale on why 
> updating an application structure would be v.bad wheras you 
> are happy to dump this info in a db which is massively slower 
> than writing to memory.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) 
> > [mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com]
> > Sent: 07 November 2002 10:09
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Online Users
> > 
> > 
> > erm..... like I said, yes I know that can be done but with
> > the possibility
> > of 600K users online at one time and the Application 
> > structure being written
> > and read many times its not ideal........ in fact it would be 
> > extremely
> > unwise to do so.......
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Fennell [mailto:paul@;satachi.com]
> > Sent: 07 November 2002 10:07
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Online Users
> > 
> > 
> > bung that info in to an application strc then
> > wrap it and lock it 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) 
> > [mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com]
> > Sent: 07 November 2002 09:56
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Online Users
> > 
> > 
> > :-)
> > 
> > I need to have a list of ALL users logged into the system at
> > one time... I
> > log their UserID, time of login etc...
> > 
> > N
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Martin [mailto:steve.martin@;sequence.co.uk]
> > Sent: 07 November 2002 09:53
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Online Users
> > 
> > 
> > OK, let's look at this again, from the top. What specific user 
> > information do you require and for what purpose?
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) 
> > > [mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com]
> > > Sent: 07 November 2002 09:19
> > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Online Users
> > > 
> > > 
> > > LOL :-)
> > > 
> > > OK Steve,   What I can't see from your suggestion is this : 
> > > how do I get
> > > *all* of the users into the session scope? of course I
> > > understand fully how
> > > to get them into the application scope (to be shared) but I 
> > > am unsure on how
> > > you get all of the users into a session scope which can then 
> > > be queried.
> > > Surely each users session is independent?
> > > 
> > > Neil
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Steve Martin [mailto:steve.martin@;sequence.co.uk]
> > > Sent: 06 November 2002 17:47
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Online Users
> > > 
> > > 
> > > By who's criteria?
> > > The session scope is there for storing login information of
> > > this nature.
> > > Slam in some RAM if you feel that your server can't cope. 600 
> > > users is a
> > > pretty teeny weeny small number by any server's standards.
> > > 
> > > My usual advice is to avoid trying to come up with 
> esoteric software 
> > > engineering solutions to workaround physical constraints 
> when such 
> > > constraints can be overcome by spending 50p on some more memory.
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) 
> > > > [mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com]
> > > > Sent: 06 November 2002 17:12
> > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Online Users
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > well,, after a quick check, the amount of users within the
> > > > system could be
> > > > 600+ at anyone time.....
> > > > 
> > > > bit big for the session scope?!
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Steve Martin [mailto:steve.martin@;sequence.co.uk]
> > > > Sent: 06 November 2002 16:44
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Online Users
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I just store login information in the session scope which
> > > > takes care of
> > > > flushing itself when the timeout is reached. Why 
> > > specifically are you
> > > > storing such information in a db?
> > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) 
> > > > > [mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com]
> > > > > Sent: 06 November 2002 16:31
> > > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > > > Subject: [ cf-dev ] Online Users
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > This is a no brainer and I must be having a brain fart....
> > > > > 
> > > > > We have an online table which holds records for each user
> > > > > logged onto the
> > > > > system after login.  
> > > > > These rows have a date logged on etc, and indeed this works 
> > > > > well when the
> > > > > user signs off as expected (as this removes the rows in 
> > question)
> > > > > 
> > > > > however, what process do you guys have in place when a user
> > > > > does NOT sign
> > > > > off and simply closes the browser and does not return for 
> > > a few days
> > > > > later...?
> > > > > 
> > > > > It means that they remain 'online' in the DB......
> > > > > 
> > > > > What do you guys have in place... any ideas?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Neil
> > > > > 
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