> Oh, and can anyone recommend a good book that deals with the Java
> aspects of CFMX? I'm painfully conscious of knowing diddley-squat about
> what's under the hood.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Aidan Whitehall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Here is a mail I sent to cf-talk,  regarding Java in general and on specific
MX/Java stuff also.


-------------------mail to cf-talk ----------------

There is a lot to learn - but everyone need to start somewhere right? :-)

A lot of people just don't know where to start. Hopefully this mail will
help them get started.
In reality you can get on with a limited understanding, but you will
probably enjoy learning more.

I suggest you forget about Java and CFMX, in the beginning, until you get
your J2ee fundamentals right.

Download a jsp/servlets container to get started. I recommend
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/.
This will give you an understanding of the config file (web.xml etc) / the
directory structure (WEB-INF etc.) / and jars (how java apps are packaged)
etc.

As for the books....

Lets break down the parts - you really only need one java syntax book & one
j2ee book to get the basics.

The core language
-------------------------------------
 Beginning Java  http://www.wrox.com/books/1861002238.htm
        + pretty good tutorial to get started

 Java Professional Library (4 books) - Oreilly
        + loads here mostly reference though
                + one j2ee book (not great: I have an older version )
                + one java basics book (good)
                + one java examples book - helpful
                + one core language reference (good)

On the server/ J2ee
-------------------------------------
 Professional Java Server Programming
        http://www.wrox.com/books/1861002777.htm

        Good introduction to server side java
        Include JSP / Servlets / some EJB (overview only) /Jini

 Enterprise JavaBeans - Oreilly
        http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/entjbeans3/
        Great In-depth reference for EJB

 Java Servlet Programming
        http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/jservlet2
        Great In-depth reference to servlets..

 I recommend you DON't get http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/javentappsv1/
        Building Java Enterprise Applications Volume  because although it's a good
book the author has informed me that there is NO release date for the 2nd
and 3rd parts. Very annoying.


CFMX and J2ee / Java
-----------------------------------------
Macromedia Reality ColdFusion MX / J2EE
by Ben Forta / Drew Falkman / Kristian Cibulskis / Bonnie Plottner.
http://www.forta.com/books/0321129482

I'll sent you my full review of this one....

MX contains several java technologies:

        * Axis for websevices  - http://xml.apache.org/axis/
        * J-Integra COM/ java bridge http://www.intrinsyc.com/
        * taglibs - tags you can use in both jsp & cf (using cfimport)
http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/index.html
        * log4j used by cflog
internally -http://jakarta.apache.org/log4j/docs/index.html

In addition to all that -  there is loads on the web that is excellent,
java.sun.com tutorials come to mind. Step by step guide to creating your own
servlets etc...


Finally download a good IDE (jEdit www.jedit.org /eclipse
http://www.eclipse.org), makes life much easier.

Justin


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