I don't have either of the scenarios you described.

Just a page with a single insert, being run by many people (whilst others do
selects on other pages)

It's the inserts that are getting deadlocked (occasionally) though.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Albert Popkov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 17 October 2003 16:18
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] sql deadlocks
> 
> 
> 
> Sorry. 
> Must be "commit tran" in the end of transaction samples 
> below. "coming tran" is the outlook's version of it.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Albert Popkov 
> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:12 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] sql deadlocks
> 
> 
> 
> If you're not using transactions you wouldn't get deadlock 
> simply because or inserts. You can get waiting locks - but 
> the're not the same as deadlocks. If fact I can't really 
> think of any way of getting deadlock without transaction. If 
> you not specifically using SQL transactions, you need to 
> check CFTRANSACTION tags in your code.
> 
> With transactions there are 2 typical causes of deadlock:
> 
> 1. if you select some data from the same table and then try 
> to update it within the same transaction: Eg begin tran 
> select mydata from mytable where key=somevalue update mytable 
> set something=value where key=somevalue coming tran
> 
> Would fail if run concurrently. The solution is to use with 
> (updtable) in the first select.
> 
> 2. if you have 2 transactions updating 2 tables in different 
> order Eg. begin tran update tableA update tableB coming tran 
> and begin tran update tableB update tableA coming tran
> 
> would cause a deadlock. The solution is to make sure you're 
> updating tables In the same order when possible, or implement 
> some kind of syncronisation to make sure they will not run 
> concurrently. 
> (using select .. from ... with (updlock) for example)).
> 
> 
> You can also play around redusing isolation level for some 
> transactions but I wouldn't recommend it.
> 
> 
> Hope it helps,
> Albert.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:44 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] sql deadlocks
> 
> 
> Its not about the 2 pages, thinking about it, its just the 
> one that adds posts - I've got too many users runing that 
> page at the same time, and the sql server is deadlocking 
> them. Obviously the sql server is locking the entire table, 
> as other users can't add new rows at the same time as another user.
> 
> All I have is a single simple cfquery INSERT. Nothing odd 
> about it - its not trying to do anything fancy.
> 
> The forum is experiencing high traffic - which is causing this.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 17 October 2003 15:42
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] sql deadlocks
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Post the code? Justin
> > 
> > > I have 2 pages - one to add a post to a thread and another
> > to select
> > > the entire thread and display it.
> > 
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