it's still in cfmx admin though:)
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kola Oyedeji" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 5:13 PM
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Performance


> 
> Does that still apply? I seem to recall Ben Forta saying in one of the
> meetings that this was true for earlier (pre CF5 versions) but the
> restrictions to 100 cached queries was no longer applied.
> 
> Kola
> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> design.co.uk]
> >> Sent: 23 October 2003 14:06
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Performance
> >> 
> >> When you get to 100, the next time a query is cached it replaces the
> >> oldest one in the list so caching variable queries like that can
> nullify
> >> the effect of using caching on the server -- basically what is cached
> is
> >> the query statement once the variables have been calculated.
> >> 
> >> ---- Message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] at 14:01:02
> 2003-
> >> 10-23 ------
> >> >
> >> >as someone said earlier, the default is for a maximum of 100 cached
> >> queries
> >> >on a server.  so if you've got 1000 different ID's, that would be
> 1000
> >> >different cached queries.
> >> >
> >> >
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> >> >
> >> >                    "Lovelock,
> >> >                    Richard J"               To:
> >> "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >                    <richard.lovelock        cc:
> >> >                    @cgey.com>               Subject:     RE: [
> cf-dev ]
> >> Performance
> >> >
> >> >                    23/10/2003 13:39
> >> >                    Please respond to
> >> >                    dev
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >yes I was thinking about that latter solution of having a page to
> run
> >> when
> >> >the updated DB is loaded - which runs all of the queries with a
> >> "0,0,0,0"
> >> >timespan
> >> >
> >> >think that is the way i will go...
> >> >
> >> >thing is, with the dynamic queries (e.g. SELECT *, FROM Emp, WHERE
> empid
> >> =
> >> >#form.empid#)  would I need to run the query with "0,0,0,0" for
> every id
> >> -
> >> >i
> >> >assume there is a cahed query for every outcome of this query which
> has
> >> >been
> >> >run (i.e. if there are 1000 employees it would be 1000 cached
> queries
> >> not 1
> >> >query)???
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >_______________________________________________________
> >> >*  Regards,
> >> >                Richard Lovelock
> >> >Westminster City Council - Web Support
> >> >Cap Gemini Ernst & Young
> >> >Southbank
> >> >95 Wandsworth Road
> >> >London
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> >> >(     0870 906 7482
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> >> >
> >> >
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >Sent: 23 October 2003 13:26
> >> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Performance
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >This is what I do.
> >> >
> >> >I have my queries in a module, the cachedwithin is passed as an
> >> >attribute.
> >> >
> >> >So the main site would include the modules like this.
> >> >
> >> ><cfmodule template="MOD_NewsQuery"
> >> >cachedwithin="#application.cachevariable#">
> >> >
> >> >And you setup a variable in your application.cfm for all the various
> >> >caching periods you want.
> >> >
> >> >Now you can call this same module from your admin whenever you
> update a
> >> >query and pass a cachedwithin value of "0,0,0,0" so the queries
> >> >automatically get un-cached.
> >> >
> >> >Alternately if you are manually uplaoding a new database rather than
> >> >using an ADMIN, you can have a single page that CFMODULES all of
> your
> >> >queries passing a "0,0,0,0" cachedwithin attribute, and will uncache
> the
> >> >whole lot in one go, so u just run this page when u upload a new
> >> >database.
> >> >
> >> >HTH
> >> >
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> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: Lovelock, Richard J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >> Sent: 23 October 2003 08:47
> >> >> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> >> >> Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Performance
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I have some cached queries - some using url/form variables in
> >> >> Where clause etc
> >> >>
> >> >> After updating DB (usually once a week in a big way) the
> >> >> changes aren't appearing
> >> >>
> >> >> The way I am getting around this is to change the
> >> >> cachedwithin="#CreateTimeSpan(5, 0, 0, 0)#" in my pages to
> >> >> cachedwithin="#CreateTimeSpan(0, 0, 0, 0)#" then uploading
> >> >> them and surfing to each to fetch new results from DB. Then
> >> >> changing back to cachedwithin="#CreateTimeSpan(5, 0, 0, 0)#",
> >> >> then uploading again.
> >> >>
> >> >> This achieves the results I want in terms of getting the new
> >> >> data DB but is there a more efficient way of doing this other
> >> >> than changing code/uploading/surfing to pages/changing code
> >> >> again/uploading again?
> >> >>
> >> >> _______________________________________________________
> >> >> *  Regards,
> >> >>                 Richard Lovelock
> >> >> Westminster City Council - Web Support
> >> >> Cap Gemini Ernst & Young
> >> >> Southbank
> >> >> 95 Wandsworth Road
> >> >> London
> >> >> SW8 2HG
> >> >> (     0870 906 7482
> >> >>
> >> >> _______________________________________________________
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: Ellwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >> Sent: 22 October 2003 19:47
> >> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >> Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Performance
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Allan,
> >> >>
> >> >> Stored procedures don't improve speed that much unless you
> >> >> are doing multiple queries in one page. This is then a better
> >> >> example for using stored procs because of the lack of client
> >> >> server handshaking needed after each query.
> >> >>
> >> >> Cached queries however are much faster but beware that you
> >> >> don't get confused about updates not appearing straight away.
> >> >> The way around this is run the query straight after updating
> >> >> with a timespan of less than 0 for example
> CreateTimeSpan(0,0,0,-1)
> >> >>
> >> >> Sorry if I have repeated what everyone else has said but my
> >> >> computer has been out of action for most of the day due to my
> >> >> antivirus picking up a bug and eliminating it rather radically.
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: Allan Cliff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >> Sent: 22 October 2003 10:33
> >> >> To: CF - List
> >> >>
> >> >> Anyone like to share their opinion on improving coldfusion
> >> >> speed either by using stored procedures or caching queries?
> >> >>
> >> >> Which one is better? Or does it depend on the query.
> >> >>
> >> >> At the moment I have a mixture of them both with dynamic
> >> >> queries as SP and basic queries q_GetCountries and
> >> >> q_GetStates as CachedWithin.
> >> >>
> >> >> Any comments?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks
> >> >>
> >> >> Allan
> >> >>
> >> >>
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