Macromedia seem to recommend the Siteminder stuff ...perhaps this is where our scripts came from
http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/tn18039.htm perhaps it isn't related to SiteMinder as that appears to stop and start OK if you look at http://www.openswf.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/tn18158.htm there seems to be a ref. to this file whenever the server/site has gone down _______________________________________________________ * Regards, Richard Lovelock Westminster City Council - Web Support Cap Gemini Ernst & Young Southbank 95 Wandsworth Road London SW8 2HG ( 0870 906 7482 _______________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Paul Fennell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 November 2003 12:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Server Problem That would be your User security / access system Richard http://www.netegrity.com/products/products.cfm?page=SMoverview It�s a good product for large scale applications that need a centralised access system Im just surprised its on a restart bat file . -----Original Message----- From: Lovelock, Richard J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 November 2003 11:59 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Server Problem Is Siteminder a Allaire product related to CF or something else? _______________________________________________________ * Regards, Richard Lovelock Westminster City Council - Web Support Cap Gemini Ernst & Young Southbank 95 Wandsworth Road London SW8 2HG ( 0870 906 7482 _______________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Steve Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 November 2003 11:48 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Server Problem That's what I was getting at. I'd stick to restarting the cf application executive services and leave siteminder & the various monitoring services well alone as this is asking four trouble. > -----Original Message----- > From: Lovelock, Richard J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 24 November 2003 11:45 > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Server Problem > > > well... > > i recently put a question to the CFlist about whether doing a > CF Restart > daily is a good thing and the general consensus was yes. > > I implemented a CFrestart of > > net stop "Cold Fusion RDS" > > net stop "Cold Fusion Application Server" > > net stop "Cold Fusion Executive" > > on our third server which happens daily without trouble. > > the jobs detailed below which run on the main two servers > were already in > place when i became involved with supporting the website so I was not > involved in their implementation > > _______________________________________________________ > * Regards, > Richard Lovelock > Westminster City Council - Web Support > Cap Gemini Ernst & Young > Southbank > 95 Wandsworth Road > London > SW8 2HG > ( 0870 906 7482 > > _______________________________________________________ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 24 November 2003 11:37 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Server Problem > > > May I ask why you're stopping all these services? > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Lovelock, Richard J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 24 November 2003 11:16 > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Server Problem > > > > > > On Wesweb02 (slave) > > - I am using a NT Scheduled job at 7am with commands: > > REM This file stops and restarts all CF services > > REM Implemented 23/10/02 > > REM > > net stop "ColdFusion Monitoring Service" > > net stop "ColdFusion Management Service" > > net stop "ColdFusion Management Repository Server" > > net stop "ColdFusion Graphing Server" > > net stop "Cold Fusion RDS" > > net stop "Cold Fusion Application Server" > > net stop "Cold Fusion Executive" > > net stop "Siteminder Authorization Service" > > net stop "SiteMinder Authentication Service" > > net start "SiteMinder Authentication Service" > > net start "Siteminder Authorization Service" > > net start "Cold Fusion Executive" > > net start "Cold Fusion Application Server" > > net start "Cold Fusion RDS" > > net start "ColdFusion Graphing Server" > > net start "ColdFusion Management Repository Server" > > net start "ColdFusion Management Service" > > net start "ColdFusion Monitoring Service" > > net time \\wesweb01 /SET /Y > > > > On wesweb01 (master - problem server) > > - I am using a NT scheduled job at :30 am with commands: > > REM Stops and restarts all CF Services > > REM Implemented 23/10/02 > > REM > > net stop "ColdFusion Monitoring Service" > > net stop "ColdFusion Management Service" > > net stop "ColdFusion Management Repository Server" > > net stop "ColdFusion Graphing Server" > > net stop "Cold Fusion RDS" > > net stop "Cold Fusion Application Server" > > net stop "Cold Fusion Executive" > > net stop "Siteminder Authorization Service" > > net stop "SiteMinder Authentication Service" > > net start "SiteMinder Authentication Service" > > net start "Siteminder Authorization Service" > > net start "Cold Fusion Executive" > > net start "Cold Fusion Application Server" > > net start "Cold Fusion RDS" > > net start "ColdFusion Graphing Server" > > net start "ColdFusion Management Repository Server" > > net start "ColdFusion Management Service" > > net start "ColdFusion Monitoring Service" > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > * Regards, > > Richard Lovelock > > Westminster City Council - Web Support > > Cap Gemini Ernst & Young > > Southbank > > 95 Wandsworth Road > > London > > SW8 2HG > > ( 0870 906 7482 > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Paul Fennell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 24 November 2003 11:08 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Server Problem > > > > > > Richard > > By what method are you restarting the services ? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Lovelock, Richard J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 24 November 2003 10:57 > > To: 'cflist' > > Subject: [ cf-dev ] Server Problem > > > > Hello guys > > > > We have a problem with one of our web servers. The main > > Westminster web > > site > > is stopping of its own accord on a semi-regular basis. When this > > happens, > > the web server is alive and kicking, IIS is running, the CF > > Services are > > running but the actual website defined in IIS is in stopped > status. We > > have > > two servers in a cluster, WESWEB01 being the master and > WESWEB02 being > > the > > slave. Load balancing is managed by ClusterCATS of which I > > have next to > > no > > experience in. > > > > Overview of problem: > > > > - Seems to have started since implementing a scheduled CF Restart > > several > > weeks ago. > > - Seems to occur at a very similar time to the CF Restart > > - Does not happen everyday - but every few days or so. > > - WESWEB02 CF restart occurs 1/2 hour before (7am) WESWEB01 > > CF restart. > > > > Whenever there is some significant problem on server - the message > > referring > > to 'failure connecting to getmetricdataXML.cfm' seems to be present. > > There > > is a call to this file in the IIS log every minute. What is is for? > > > > I have been through the NT Event Viewer Application log on the web > > server > > for the time period from when the CF Restart happens/website stops > > working > > until the time that the service is manually restarted via > > PCAnywhere. I > > have > > put all of the messages in an XL sheet which can be viewed at > > <http://fclounge.cfdeveloper.co.uk/wesweb01log.xls> > > http://fclounge.cfdeveloper.co.uk/wesweb01log.xls (the first > > worksheet > > on > > the left "Application Log on Event Viewer" shows the main > info). 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