It appears that maybe the mailing list bounced it. I did receive a response 
from Randy which was addressed to both me personally and to 
dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org> but I don’t see 
the message in the mailing list archive. The following is copied from Randy’s 
email.

You can find the deck at: 
https://www.slideshare.net/randybias/rebooting-the-opencontrail-community<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.slideshare.net_randybias_rebooting-2Dthe-2Dopencontrail-2Dcommunity&d=DwMGaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=xtmPik_TP2fjPVGWP4yBRQ&m=qBJyN21tFUOQnhwSbT_-DNeThodF6UM5T02kTVn5uvc&s=lfZg1Oe-5RFdrXESq16Kkoe4oddxD7yt-9rbJBlla78&e=>

The Google group can be found at: 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/opencontrail-founding<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__groups.google.com_forum_-23-21forum_opencontrail-2Dfounding&d=DwMGaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=xtmPik_TP2fjPVGWP4yBRQ&m=qBJyN21tFUOQnhwSbT_-DNeThodF6UM5T02kTVn5uvc&s=EPSfK2ER9MzTWj6yWXP6H-qk2CsLqTqgd23L8_Nl26s&e=>


From: Edgar Magana [mailto:edgar.mag...@workday.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 13:44
To: Harshad Nakil <hna...@gmail.com>; CARVER, PAUL <pc2...@att.com>
Cc: dev@lists.opencontrail.org
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] Slide deck from the OCUG meeting

Folks,

Just reviewing my notes and it seems that the slide deck has not been shared 
yet. I know that Randy is in PTO for a couple of weeks, does anyone else has 
access to those slides?

Thanks,

Edgar

From: Harshad Nakil <hna...@gmail.com<mailto:hna...@gmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 7:08 AM
To: "CARVER, PAUL" <pc2...@att.com<mailto:pc2...@att.com>>
Cc: Edgar Magana <edgar.mag...@workday.com<mailto:edgar.mag...@workday.com>>, 
"dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>" 
<dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>>
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] Slide deck from the OCUG meeting

Usually in community people take responsibility and initiative to do what they 
want.

Whoever is first to take initiative wins :)
Currently developers have put the documents where code is. One can show the way 
by taking initiative.

Regards
-Harshad


On May 16, 2017, at 3:38 AM, CARVER, PAUL 
<pc2...@att.com<mailto:pc2...@att.com>> wrote:
If I remember correctly, rst has a bit of a Python linkage while markdown is 
more widely used, but the most important question is tooling. Github will 
render both automatically but should Github be the primary place for Contrail 
publication?

OpenStack publishes to 
https://docs.openstack.org<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.openstack.org&d=DwMFaQ&c=DS6PUFBBr_KiLo7Sjt3ljp5jaW5k2i9ijVXllEdOozc&r=G0XRJfDQsuBvqa_wpWyDAUlSpeMV4W1qfWqBfctlWwQ&m=ZWVtTGwUHCdPj1Vh-UXDmvp6UaWOsOGFj3V-tf7XnF4&s=kPELO5QDZh_t_Em3sLdqnt_qqlanvszkCIYmFj6hSok&e=>
 by rendering source files in Git to HTML with Github serving only as a 
secondary mirror of the Git repos. The older documentation has been in Docbook 
XML but a lot of programmers dislike dealing with that at all (and I strongly 
agreed, I'd much rather deal with either markdown or rst than Docbook) so much 
of OpenStack documentation has moved to rst.

If we're going to have a 
https://docs.opencontrail.org<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.opencontrail.org&d=DwMFaQ&c=DS6PUFBBr_KiLo7Sjt3ljp5jaW5k2i9ijVXllEdOozc&r=G0XRJfDQsuBvqa_wpWyDAUlSpeMV4W1qfWqBfctlWwQ&m=ZWVtTGwUHCdPj1Vh-UXDmvp6UaWOsOGFj3V-tf7XnF4&s=HTeY3vpCmOroNHfQF1PhqQazyPnwFPvSHXsLCqn34IQ&e=>
 generated by Jenkins/Zuul from source files in Git repos then someone will 
need to setup the CI pipeline so it would be worth getting input from whoever 
has the most experience with the existing Contrail CI pipelines.

The important thing is to be clear about it because you can't mix and match. I 
recently cleaned up networking-vpp documentation because someone had written 
markdown in an rst file and that doesn't render properly at all, even with 
Github's automatic rendering.




--
Paul Carver
V: 732.545.7377
C: 908.803.1656



-------- Original message --------
From: Harshad Nakil <hna...@gmail.com<mailto:hna...@gmail.com>>
Date: 5/16/17 00:38 (GMT-05:00)
To: Edgar Magana <edgar.mag...@workday.com<mailto:edgar.mag...@workday.com>>
Cc: dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] Slide deck from the OCUG meeting

We have been using markdown for all documentation.
But of course "community" thinks that developers don't understand anything.

Regards
-Harshad


On May 15, 2017, at 9:32 PM, Edgar Magana 
<edgar.mag...@workday.com<mailto:edgar.mag...@workday.com>> wrote:
Hi,

Those will work as well. Maybe, this is a good opportunity to get feedback from 
the community.

What do you OpenContrail member wanted to use?

Cheers,

Edgar


On May 15, 2017, at 8:22 PM, Randy Bias 
<rb...@juniper.net<mailto:rb...@juniper.net>> wrote:
What about Markdown?

--Randy
VP, Technology and Strategy, Cloud Software
Juniper Networks
+1 (415) 787-2253<tel:+1%20(415)%20787-2253> [SMS or voice]
ASSISTANT: Stephanie Concepcion, 
sconcepc...@juniper.net<mailto:sconcepc...@juniper.net>
TWITTER: 
twitter.com/randybias<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__twitter.com_randybias&d=DwMGaQ&c=DS6PUFBBr_KiLo7Sjt3ljp5jaW5k2i9ijVXllEdOozc&r=G0XRJfDQsuBvqa_wpWyDAUlSpeMV4W1qfWqBfctlWwQ&m=pbb5xL1uJX8mJDD60Lrf3dMcwxguG5fbrjXvOJuBvD4&s=40mhqwVgH0lX9HLy33rxwU9rZ0UFDc_kZCeOuk8uqoA&e=>
LINKEDIN: 
linkedin.com/in/randybias<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__linkedin.com_in_randybias&d=DwMGaQ&c=DS6PUFBBr_KiLo7Sjt3ljp5jaW5k2i9ijVXllEdOozc&r=G0XRJfDQsuBvqa_wpWyDAUlSpeMV4W1qfWqBfctlWwQ&m=pbb5xL1uJX8mJDD60Lrf3dMcwxguG5fbrjXvOJuBvD4&s=Cufvq1eE1ythvp3h5fzO7KUD3YAW_L8nfRJ8IPnjPeE&e=>



*** Sent from mobile, pls forgive tpyoes ***

On May 15, 2017, at 20:21, Edgar Magana 
<edgar.mag...@workday.com<mailto:edgar.mag...@workday.com>> wrote:
Randy,

In my experience .rst files are very easy to manage for documentation and 
processes.

Edgar

On May 15, 2017, at 8:05 PM, Randy Bias 
<rb...@juniper.net<mailto:rb...@juniper.net>> wrote:
What format in Github?


--Randy

Vice President, Technology & Strategy, Cloud Software
Juniper Networks
+1 (415) 787-2253 [Google Voice]
ASSISTANT: Stephanie Concepcion, 
sconcepc...@juniper.net<mailto:sconcepc...@juniper.net>
TWITTER: @randybias
LINKEDIN: 
linkedin.com/in/randybias<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__linkedin.com_in_randybias&d=DwMGaQ&c=DS6PUFBBr_KiLo7Sjt3ljp5jaW5k2i9ijVXllEdOozc&r=G0XRJfDQsuBvqa_wpWyDAUlSpeMV4W1qfWqBfctlWwQ&m=pbb5xL1uJX8mJDD60Lrf3dMcwxguG5fbrjXvOJuBvD4&s=Cufvq1eE1ythvp3h5fzO7KUD3YAW_L8nfRJ8IPnjPeE&e=>


From: Edgar Magana <edgar.mag...@workday.com<mailto:edgar.mag...@workday.com>>
Date: Monday, May 15, 2017 at 1:50 PM
To: "CARVER, PAUL" <pc2...@att.com<mailto:pc2...@att.com>>, Randy Bias 
<rb...@juniper.net<mailto:rb...@juniper.net>>, 
"dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>" 
<dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>>
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] Slide deck from the OCUG meeting

Folks,

These are all excellent points. Would it be possible to have all these details 
in github repos?
That will be easy to follow up the conversations instead of using email. Well, 
just my proposal. It is working well for other open source communities such as 
OpenStack.

Thanks,

Edgar

From: Dev 
<dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org>> 
on behalf of "CARVER, PAUL" <pc2...@att.com<mailto:pc2...@att.com>>
Date: Monday, May 15, 2017 at 5:06 AM
To: "ran...@juniper.net<mailto:ran...@juniper.net>" 
<ran...@juniper.net<mailto:ran...@juniper.net>>, 
"dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>" 
<dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>>
Subject: [opencontrail-dev] Slide deck from the OCUG meeting

Randy,

Thanks for your presentation at the Open Contrail Users Group last week. Can 
you please post a public link to your slide deck for people who were unable to 
attend or who didn’t take phone photos of every slide. Especially, the link to 
the Google Group needs to go out so that everyone on the Dev mailing list can 
sign up.

I have a list of potential topics for the first meeting of whatever forum you 
end up organizing.


  *   Compiling Contrail from source – There has been a fair amount of 
discussion of this on the mailing list recently

     *   Discussion of issues people are encountering
     *   Build scripts
     *   Prerequisites
     *   Documentation of the build process

  *   Due dates

     *   An overview of current key dates in the process (blueprint, code 
complete, testing, documentation, beta, GA)
     *   Discussion of any changes that might help contributors plan better
     *   Dates for dates – set expectations on how and when the key dates for 
future releases will be set
     *   Missed date management – discussion of how slipped dates for Juniper’s 
GA release impact community development

  *   Testing procedures

     *   Discussion of how third party developers should expect to interact 
with Juniper during the time period between code freeze and beta and GA
     *   Discussion of beta vs release candidate and whether there are process 
improvements needed in order to ensure that third party developers are able to 
catch and fix bugs in the features they are developing
     *   Overview of test framework, not just unit tests but functional and 
full stack automated tests

  *   Documentation

     *   How are non-Juniper developers expected to deliver documentation for 
features that they develop?
     *   When is documentation due?

  *   Core reviewer / TSC / meetings

     *   What are the expectations for a non-Juniper developer to become a core 
reviewer?
     *   Does Contrail have anything equivalent to a Technical Steering 
Committee?
     *   Are there any regularly scheduled meetings (e.g. on Slack/IRC or 
teleconference) for developers to sync up on progress of their changes, discuss 
code reviews, discuss bugs, etc
     *   Build system problems – How can non-Juniper contributors effectively 
troubleshoot issues like this: 
https://jenkins.opencontrail.org/job/ci-contrail-vrouter-systest-ubuntu14-mitaka/480/console<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__jenkins.opencontrail.org_job_ci-2Dcontrail-2Dvrouter-2Dsystest-2Dubuntu14-2Dmitaka_480_console&d=DwMFAg&c=DS6PUFBBr_KiLo7Sjt3ljp5jaW5k2i9ijVXllEdOozc&r=G0XRJfDQsuBvqa_wpWyDAUlSpeMV4W1qfWqBfctlWwQ&m=672AiZ61UGMFTc1WfPGBmgJYUEzVnbC9i9hqKSlloZo&s=j-50PyEc_ppikIVehQAGlLvpHxEL8q7515cEI087XEo&e=>



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