-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 12/21/2014 01:12 AM, Aurélien DESBRIÈRES wrote: > > Stop to blame me to try to defend something I care about. > *** I don't blame you, I try to understand why you think money is OK when it's trade, but not when it's a gift.
> ... you will *destroy* :: > *** Are you blaming me for doing something in the future that is not my intention? :P > > Why if you have no plan are you agressive with me? > *** I don't feel aggressive with you. I'm simply stating the lack of logic in your position, and want to understand how the different parties involved can reach a consensus on--not whether, but how to bring money in without frustrating anyone. You think money will destroy everything, yet, other people tell you that money is just a mean, and not an end. I've worked for projects without money, a lot, and a long time. There's a point where one needs to earn money in order to maintain oneself. That's not about destroying anything, but about enabling things to happen in the long term. Aurélien, you've been deliberately avoiding simple questions I've made that would easily end the loop we're in right now: do you earn money or not? Do you know of any free software project that does not require any money even indirectly--people working on such project "in their spare time"? I can predict that the former is yes, and the latter is no, because we're all living in the same non-idealistic world where social approval is largely replaced by the trade economy. That does not mean including money turns anything into a trade economy. That simply means in order to live in this world and interact with it, some money is needed as the interface sometimes. Hopefully the social approval at work in Parabola will remain strong and prevalent, but I think rejecting money as a whole is more likely to damage the project than accepting donations, which are a mark of social approval from people who do earn money from their daily activity. The form of those donations is subject to discussion. What Tiberiu proposed seems very acceptable to me in principle, and it's another thing to determine how the project will allocate this money. Obviously, if you think money is not kosher, you're volunteering not to receive any. But still, you shall benefit from it, as it will be transformed into productive work time. == hk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJUlsf/XxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAw MDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwAAoJEEgGw2P8GJg9JlkQAJ8/k7zOxDk4Susd0jdwqtKd TnTMsLBYMSL2sxk89lnXsCdTEiFdHxfWtfbG6wXedB0GzNuc1FocNcLXIvg21IM7 X03YASCndsRfij9KaS2QXLCerX3Ir4tmMPBRb6pJ+iUzaBwQb20FKgt2JXhZJRZk ot7RG6OeJpBsw3y1ds9IBHFXSKUJdOQdXBiDUFLwC/7ylDvn4FqD2lRrjyAapOuE aoZWd+OGhx1VNfZUiglVOsAG/YfrpW/hCdAbx/KpNwtDfDmSyUh9etKJ4fEWKEEB PIdCcuuADbcCz11iyG3mXkmx3/UyWC567ANMkYrGtHv/l+RPr/7cC1Zmmu/g+FIU yEPEBMw2e+3I9h/hspEwJ6UGYsAOx5I4wctINQCuQQ23IJNGx1+O06xUkvH7zaTc mK4lIVwRceTnlElmwRZcRcIi/J8YakGnN+bjcQJPwIKqcfbCNt6HGsXWaOXdQmpk iS9816uo2ryf8j1xkDrAm9FX0hbC5xcRNJeNL4Yt9c9sZKtUwTQDcOQg0vWeu2Ki NJ2wpORWevUctReRpXeO3iezcbV2l1tBNzcJ6qGYcNluW08fh/7FI/9Pd2wHMJvX UXHerGZx5S3gDhQnk96JOO2fpQypRYGXkpqTsvGLpvwfSF+F38q7jegOufjTs9FD 7IIf+jCl71ceLES1jY51 =b8qt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Dev mailing list [email protected] https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/dev
