aurelien <[email protected]> writes: > Speaking of people act, the first part of that mail comes from nowhere > so that mean a private exchange around a public situation. > > The dark corner of the money are just like this: > > "Dark corners are basically fractal—no matter how much you illuminate, > there’s always a smaller but darker one." -— Brian Kernighan
here's the account of events: * it was discussed here on dev list that we needed a build server so we can keep i686 alive. * then Emulatorman sent tct an email cc'ed to me and g4jc with the expenses. * tct said "let me study this and i'll make the arrangements when i get an ok from fauno" * i studied the email Emulatorman sent and saw there were some things that were really expensive. the server was acquired by g4jc already, and we were going to buy an ups and a chassis on US and ship everything to UY. the ups costed ~180 usd and the chassis ~95, but shipping them would amount to ~400 usd, that to me was a lot of money. * so we discussed a little on what to do and decided to buy the ups locally which was ~160 usd and maybe not buying the chassis but only the power unit, since the motherboard is not atx but some other standard not readily found in uruguay. g4jc said he'd buy the chassis out of pocket anyway. * tct offered a ~400 usd machine and colocation on a datacenter he trusted in romania. we told him the server was already bought by g4jc. * then Emulatorman said a friend of him was willing to pay directly for the shipping cost which was dropped to ~200 usd since we weren't going to buy the ups or the chassis, and this somehow involved money from his pocket too, but i told him i didn't like for him to use his money on this. he said he wanted to and i was not convinced anyway. * then he told me g4jc needed 100 usd to deliver the things to his address in miamibox, a pobox that receives on miami and delivers to uruguay we used in the past under Emulatorman's or a family name, but that g4jc wanted the money in btc because he would have tax troubles otherwise. * tct reminded us the btc are converted to ron and i asked if they could buy btc back, which he said they could on a local exchange. they have to convert everything to ron because of fiscal obligations, so we never had 3000 usd as some said. the value of btc was lower back then, around 300 usd each and now it's triple, but they could be 3 cents as well, given btc unstability. * g4jc said ceata could also pay for the delivery directly in usd so he would only have to print the ups stamp, so there wouldn't be a need to send him money or buy btc, and the invoice would be to ceata, which always makes things easier for them. * nothing else happens * then i'm invited to a tox channel where i read some people basically think ceata and tct are keeping the money for themselves and their task is to recover it, given their "unwillingness" to make expenses on our behalf, which i found ridiculous. i mention it looks like a coup, since it's a secret meeting to form a consensus out of reach from the whole community. i sustain this even if it offended them. * this meeting is mixed with some good ideas on how to be autonomous and earn wages for the work put on, which i applaud, though they were mixed with flak towards ceata that is completely unfair. * i confront them about this and they mention they want to make parabola an entity on a tax haven, some money Emulatorman had to spend from pocket for fisl and a veiled accusation of stealing parabola funds to myself. * meanwhile, tct confirms he can buy the ups stamp directly so g4jc can just deliver the computer and g4jc agrees. as of today, tct was still waiting for an estimate on weight and size to buy the stamp. * i checked the gnucash file and it says Emulatorman was reimbursed for taxis, food and ac power adapter + 220v converter over a paypal transfer of ~200 usd, so the money he said he had to spend from pocket because he couldn't get invoices was returned to him from parabola funds. you can look it up under assets > paypal account usd or anything that's marked [FISL17] on the gnu cash file attached. * i sent an earlier version of this email for Emulatorman and others to confirm but instead he/they prefered to start this thread. all of this made me lose sleep over a week, not knowing what kind of mess i would find every morning, and ultimately made me lose trust on the people involved. i believe emulatorman and others' impatience, impulsiveness and lack of transparency put us in this position, where ceata rightfully doesn't want to have anything else to do with parabola and we have to find a new fiscal sponsorship in 60 days. which i find doubtful. i'm not sure about what is my responsibility as delegate towards ceata in this situation, but i'm sure i don't want to be a front for these people anymore. maybe i should've published the gnu cash files earlier, or move the discussion about the expenses back to this list and just involve tct privately when we reached an agreement, or explained better what i meant by a coup, or bring this mess back here when it was just brewing. i don't want to burden anyone with this mess either, so i'll resign when and if the new fiscal sponsorship is found, unless the community asks me otherwise. iirc i made clear my or any delegation can and needs to be revoked anytime to keep the power on the community and not on individual persons, appointed or self-appointed. adhocracy has a limit set on what the community wants to do and it certainly doesn't mean and ends at self-entitlement. i feel really sad about this, but some things have to be said. i also don't think ceata or tct are the ones who have to give explanations to the community (and "our anonymous donors"). i won't make any suggestions as to which i think are the motivations here, but i've seen it happen before in several other communities and it doesn't end nice. just pay attention to where the +1s come from. -- }(:=
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