-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 El 20/04/17 a las 13:46, Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic escribió: > On 20.04.2017 19:42, Megver83 wrote: >> El 20/04/17 a las 13:35, Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic escribió: >>> On 20.04.2017 17:38, Megver83 wrote: >>>> El 20/04/17 a las 10:53, Megver83 escribió: >>>>> El 20/04/17 a las 10:39, Quiliro escribió: >>>>>> El Thu, 20 Apr 2017 13:37:53 +0300 Tiberiu-Cezar >>>>>> Tehnoetic <[email protected]> escribió: >> >>>>>>> You can revert the changes coadde has made to the wiki >>>>>>> pages in his vandalization efforts before leaving the >>>>>>> project and reupload the deleted images from the Web >>>>>>> Archive, such as this one: >> >>> https://web.archive.org/web/20161208020551/https://wiki.parabola.nu/ im >> >>> ages/3/33/Logotipo_color.png >> >> >>>>> I hope this helps restore the wiki. >>>> >>>>>> I also think coade should restore the wiki. But lets not >>>>>> dwell on that. There are much more important things to >>>>>> invest our time in. Or you think that a logo is that >>>>>> important? >> >>> Please stop deciding what is important and what not. It's >>> disturbing! >> >>> Of course all that artwork used in more than 100 wiki pages is >>> important. Coadde managed to vandalize the wiki in 1h30'; one >>> of the wiki maintainers can easily revert the changes and >>> reupload the images in about the same amount of time. It >>> doesn't have to be a whole community effort for over a month >>> time. It's not that much work to do! >> >>>>> Hi, yesterday I talk with Emulatorman and Coadde and asked >>>>> them about the deletion of the artwork, according to them, >>>>> the artwork will be re-uploaded in "a neutral place" >> >>> That is non-sense. Artwork is not some feud. If they wanted it >>> somewhere, they could have copied it instead of deleting them >>> from Parabola wiki, thus hurting the project. This is a >>> stupid, childish revenge because things have not gone the way >>> they wanted against the consensus of the community. >> >> The artwork *is going to be restored* by them. > > I don't get it. Why they have deleted it in the first place? > > They don't have the wiki permissions to restore anything now. And > they can't possibly expect the Parabola community to trust them > again with doing changes to the wiki.
*Quotes:* [19:58:12] Megver83: si, fue intenso que 3 devs se fueran [19:58:20] emulatorman: si [19:58:32] Megver83: y se llevaran el arte [19:58:55] emulatorman: bah, pero eso ahora estara publicamente en un lugar neutral [19:59:06] emulatorman: pueden copiarlo a gusto y desgusto [19:59:13] Megver83: si me dijo coadde [19:59:23] Megver83: es decir, lo movieron Translation: [19:58:12] Megver83: yes, it was hard that 3 devs leave [19:58:20] emulatorman: yes [19:58:32] Megver83: and they took away the artwork [19:58:55] emulatorman: bah, but that will be public in a neutral place [19:59:06] emulatorman: you can copy it as you want and like [19:59:13] Megver83: Yes, coadde told me [19:59:23] Megver83: that means, you moved it And later he told me: [10:58:55] emulatorman: coadde me dijo que ni bien suba las artes a savannah, me dijo que va a empezar a restaurar en la wiki de Parabola [10:59:06] emulatorman: con arreglos [10:59:11] Megver83: ok [10:59:22] Megver83: es decir, lo van a re-subir con modificaciones [10:59:56] emulatorman: si [11:00:00] emulatorman: una version mejorada (...) [11:36:26] emulatorman: puedes escribir una carta en devs aclarando que tuvimos una conversacion (que fue ahora reciente) de que vamos a restaurar las imagenes en Parabola y organizarlas de una mejor forma en la wiki de como estaba antes? crazytoon y coadde van a escribir una carta alla en devs en unas horas [11:36:44] Megver83: ok [11:36:52] emulatorman: vimos que la organizacion y composicion anterior expuesta estaba un desastre [11:36:57] Megver83: de todas formas ya les dije que iban a resubirlas [11:36:56] emulatorman: de composición [11:37:15] emulatorman: no tenian ni un vinculo ni con el texto [11:37:34] emulatorman: y las ilustraciones se repetian continuamente [11:37:49] Megver83: :O [11:37:59] emulatorman: entonces antes de ellos retirarse quieren dejar un buen legado en arte y bien prolijo para la comunidad en Parabol a [11:38:22] Megver83: que bueno Translation: [10:58:55] emulatorman: coadde told me that as soon as I upload the arts to Savannah, he told me that he will begin to restore in the Parabola wiki [10:59:06] emulatorman: with fixes [10:59:11] Megver83: ok [10:59:22] Megver83: that means, you will re-upload it with modification s [10:59:56] emulatorman: yes [11:00:00] emulatorman: an improved version (...) [11:36:26] emulatorman: you can write a letter to devs clarifying that we had a conversation (this one recently) about that we will restore the images in Parabola and organize them in a better way in the wiki compared to how was before? crazytoon and coadde will write a letter there in devs in some hours [11:36:44] Megver83: ok [11:36:52] emulatorman: we saw the previous organization and composition it was a disaster [11:36:57] Megver83: anyways I told them you were going to re-upload the m [11:36:56] emulatorman: of composition [11:37:15] emulatorman: they had neither a link nor the text [11:37:34] emulatorman: and the illustrations were repeated continuously [11:37:49] Megver83: :O [11:37:59] emulatorman: then before they retire they want to leave a good legacy in art and very neat for the community in Parabola [11:38:22] Megver83: That's good >>>>> That's what they told me, so later we can restore the >>>>> images, but as Tiberiu suggested, there's the web archive. >> >>> Why wait for some miracle for the artwork to pop up somewhere >>> else. A wiki maintainer can restore everything in 1-2h. >> >>>> Correction: they will upload them again to ParabolaWiki with >>>> some some fixes. >> >>> Megver83, are you their spokesperson now? Please stop doing >>> that, you're doing a lousy job and it's lame for them to tell >>> you what to write after they unsubscribed from the mailing >>> list. >> >> Well, you wanted to know, right? > > Do yourself and everybody a favor: *quote* them! Don't speak for > them. > > They have published a lot of private communication lately. Surely > you can quote them, even if it's not in their interest anymore. Ready! >>> Since you are in contact with Emulatorman and Coadde, please >>> remind them they have Parabola hardware they need to give back >>> to Parabola, since they are no longer members of the project: >> >>> https://lists.parabola.nu/pipermail/dev/2017-April/005030.html >> >> OK, I will > > I'm sure the community appreciates this. Of course! >>> Quiliro, now it'd be the time for you to acknowledge Parabola >>> hardware _is important_ and needs to be recovered. > > Tiberiu > - -- SIP: [email protected] XMPP: [email protected] Kontalk: +56 9 5630 2363 Tox: [email protected] GPG: 6DB9C4B4F0D8C0DC432CF6E4227CA7C556B2BA78 GNUSocial: @[email protected] Diaspora*: David P. (same XMPP ID) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEErCbv92SojUTThXEpQKKthCTeGvMFAlj464UACgkQQKKthCTe GvOi/AgAm5jMzhVdlU/enF/PwcbMpQAKEJCoIncJfrsNMGU8kcV/dcEWLavgvns3 V/DS37VaPFGXW0zkEGFGwIsCo9CxAKBxNFBfPqyUhStae5xbgIO0e6s3LgtUzJ6j zYsm2hqiEdmq+5PreXfJhuSJsY46PnVr8QIFtoucinxhYwSdG4DTQB/K59pAIU83 Z5z5V8vT9xkWExowSitwnv5pLPsIb+KxIo2Ueg7Y6B9gq9jt0qrrnm897M3GxjiA kUD0KXQD7U9IFVPDO1b04gKqZVLMo/yNUhFNHkj02WscxSYrpBfTTr+MUwv6sPB1 tnTpkB7Gz8FP1cUpMyFHb/JtAVkSwA== =7Vj7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Dev mailing list [email protected] https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/dev
