> Matt Barnicle wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> we were just pondering how many of you still rely on PHP4 support >>> since we'd make life easier and drop it on devel-vnext completely. >>> Same goes for our DB logic, MDB2 is very mature currently - should we >>> rely on it exclusively? >>> >>> Thoughts? Comments? Feedback? >>> >> >> I personally think it's a good idea to move forward and use PHP5. Really, >> the main >> reason PHP5 apps aren't being built is just because of that one thing that >> people are >> mentioning, their host doesn't have it installed. But if they had an >> incentive to >> upgrade, they would. > > I partly agree with you here, that's what I was talking about when I > said that PHP5 doesn't have the "killer-apps" that make me upgrade. > Currently I don't care for PHP5. Why should I? And until some brave > projects drop PHP4 support and are really interesting for me I won't > make the switch.
Right.. And I think that's an appropriate attitude as a user, I don't take any issue with that.. I personally think roundcube could one day be one of those "killer apps" (and that's why I'm following along on the dev list here and there). >> I personally think this mentality is hindering progress, but I >> also respect others' viewpoints on the matter. The move to apache2 has been >> compared, >> and I think that's another example where the move should be done. It has >> support for >> threading, so when a new request comes in, an entire server process doesn't >> have to be >> forked! What a tremendous potential resource savings if all hosts were to >> just >> switch... That's just one example, there are lots more.. >> > > This is something that I wouldn't want to sign. With threading come > problems (a looong time several PHP extensions weren't even threadsafe) > and if you look at the other (completely OT, yes) webserver related > posts above in this thread you'll notice that quite some people (me > included) switched away from apache to for example lighttpd. Which - > incidently - is a single process. Yes, only one. That doesn't say that > it's not fast. The contrary is quite true. > I don't want to troll here, but these conclusions of yours are a little > bit off.. Ok, this is true.. And I actually did read some things about threading on the other list. I also don't claim to be an expert in that area.. Really I just wanted to point out the discussion going on in the squirrelmail project and add my opinion on the matter like others are doing. - Matt
