On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 18:56:43 +0100, "J. Roeleveld" <[email protected]> 
 wrote:
>> 1) The "name" topic is somhow personal and must be configurable. The 
>> "name"
>> contains firstname, surname, middlename title, and what ever, but in 
>> my
>> opinion it must not be editable its own, only the parts of it.
>
> Ok, I take it this is in the interface?
> Don't want to repeat myself, but the address-book functionality of
> eGroupware
> is quite good.
> Here, it is done similarly to how you describe.
> There is a "name" field, that consists of different fields.
> When trying to edit this field, a pop-up appears where the different
> "sub-fields"
> are listed. These can then be edited.
> I think, from the interface point of view, that is what you are
> talking about?
 Yes. but for me, it doesnt matter how the interface looks like, but the 
 meaning of the fields must be fixed first.

>> Another question is, what is used as identifier, the DN on the LDAP. 
>> I
>> think in RC the composed "name" is used, and I can live with that. 
>> For the
>> DN I have seen the CN (which corresponds to the "name" field) or 
>> even the
>> email address. This can allready be configured with now (LDAP_rdn).
>
> Yes, except I do tend to prefer a UUID as the DN.
> A single person can have multiple email addresses, eg. that is not 
> useful.
> And I have seen situations where different people had the same names. 
> (Just
> check the amount of email-addresses in companies with numbers...)
 I know what you mean, but in the LDAP world I have not seen yet a DN 
 like that... can otherwhat mean the LDAP gurus about that?
 how would this UUID be build? will other clients be able to handle 
 that?
 I remember that I have seen CN=?+MAIL=?,DC=? as DN... but I have 
 problems with the Email because I have lot addresses without email...

>> 2) what field is necessarry for a valid addressbook entry is 
>> depending on
>> the situation as well, it must be configurable.
>> In RC 0.4.2, the "email" and "name" fields are mandatorry (in
>> program/steps/addressbook/save.inc and program/js/app.js), but if I 
>> add
>> e.g. an entry from my cell phone with just a surname and a phone 
>> number, I
>> will as well be able to change the phone number with RC without 
>> setting a
>> valid name/email... clear what I mean?
>
> I think we should have what the LDAP schema expects as mandatory also
> mandatory in the interface.
> I also have people in my addressbook without email, but do have a 
> phone
> number.
> Or, sometimes, someone temporarily only has his/her name in the 
> addressbook
> (migrating to different country, but new address/phone/... doesn't 
> exist yet)
>
> I would try to keep the "minimum" entry to whatever we decide as the 
> DN +
> Name-fields
 Yes.

>
>> 3) another topic is how to parse an email address in the 
>> "addcontact"
>> feature. In my opinion it is too simple today. The best would be to 
>> let it
>> configured as well.
>
> I personally would prefer if it would open a pop-up (or whatever) 
> that would
> allow me to type the name for this person.
 Yes, another good idea!

>
>> 4) how to implement address groups? My first try will be to use 
>> simple
>> subdirectorries for the groups. It fits all my needs and I will try 
>> to
>> implement add/del/change groups in RC. This could look like that:
>> my base_dn:
>>      ou=abook,dc=server
>> example of an ungrouped address :
>>      cn=Firstname Surname,ou=abook,dc=server
>> group exsample:
>>      o=My Groupe,ou=abook,dc=server
>> example of an grouped address :
>>      cn=Firstname Surname,o=My Groupe,ou=abook,dc=server
>>
>> Patrik pointed that ou would fit better for the group:
>>      ou=My Groupe,ou=abook,dc=server
>> I think this should be configured as well.
>
> I agree, apart from where the "ungrouped" address comes in.
> I would do it as follows:
>
> ungrouped defaults to Global:
> dn=<uuid>,o=Global,o=Groups,ou=abook,dc=example,dc=org
>
> something in the addressbook belonging to group/project "alpha":
> dn=<uuid>,o=alpha,ou=abook,dc=example,dc=org
>
> something in my personal addressbook:
> dn=<uuid>,o=joost,o=Personal,ou=abook,dc=example,dc=org
>
> This would also make it easier to configure ACL (security) for the 
> LDAP-tree.
> The specifics for that is best left to the LDAP-experts at a later
> stage, but
> this does need to be taken into account at the design stage.
 this is your example, and we should have RC configurable for this as 
 well.

>
>> 5) the last issue is the configuration topic. The question is, how 
>> to
>> configure that lot of information without redundancy? I will let you 
>> know
>> if I have a proposition.
>
> For my example above, I'm thinking along the lines off:
> "addressbook_base_dn" = "ou=abook,dc=example,dc=org"
>
> "addressbook_groups" = "o=Groups"
> "addressbook_private" = "o=Personal"
>
> And in the code, add the "base_dn" bit to the other configuration 
> fields.
>
> And I would also think it's a good idea to be able to specify which 
> field in
> LDAP corresponds to which field relevant for RoundCube.
 Yes. I can also imagine a group-filter like we have allready for 
 entries.

 Andreas

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