> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jan Olszak [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 7:15 AM
> To: 'Jarkko Sakkinen'; 'MyungJoo Ham'
> Cc: Schaufler, Casey; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Dev] Linux Containers on Tizen
> 
> When I give my phone away I'm not only concerned about what this user can
> do, but rather what the applications that he will install can do. In this case
> starting a container would give you greater protection than just creating a
> new user. So yes, maybe containers could be a good technology to
> implement this.

By now I expect that everyone is familiar with this use case.

> "Not Umbrella Containers" operate under the assumption that we all failed -
> that there is a hole and a malicious application can use it to do stuff. NUC
> would place a concrete wall between the private and business
> environments, so malicious apps still can do stuff but only in one
> environment. That is the use case we are concentrating on.

Understood. As above, this use case is very familiar.

> The main threat for the security of the user is the user himself. I would
> accept any set of permissions just to get this Tree Climbing Game I long, but
> at least I wouldn't imperile my business data.

No one is arguing against this.

There is already an effort (multi-user) in place to address this
and several other similar use cases. NUC could very well be a
valuable component of that effort. But you *must* coordinate
your work with the multi-user team. If you don't neither will
ever work right.



> Thanks,
> Jan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jarkko Sakkinen [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 11:33 AM
> To: MyungJoo Ham
> Cc: Schaufler, Casey; Jan Olszak; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Dev] Linux Containers on Tizen
> 
> On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 01:56:33AM +0000, MyungJoo Ham wrote:
> >    Not related with multi-user project at least for now. It is an
> >    independent project and it does not assume that the two domains
> >    have different users.
> 
> In thhe first mail there was a use case where you would give your phone or
> tablet to your child. Should multi-user address the same use case or not?
> 
> The main difference I see with multi-user and this is that:
> 
> 1. Multi-user is a feature and proper technologies are chosen to implement
> it.
> 
> 2. Containers (not that well defined umbrella term for linux namespaces and
> cgroups when you combine them) is a technology.
> You might use parts of it for implementing features such as multi-user
> support.
> 
> With my limited knowledge of this effort it really looks like as someone was
> climbing feet first into the tree.
> 
> /Jarkko
> 

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