On 20.3.2014 13:10, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
i seriously doubt any ivi system i ever have will have more than music,
movies and maps in my car, so i can guarantee you, the vastly more
valuable thing to lose is the car.
I would be very sorry if that's the case.
There have been cars on the market with news, Facebook, Twitter,
internet radio etc. for ears already.
I wonder how many corporations would allow their emails stored there.
enough. i have worked at companies that use google docs for their actual
work. real life.
Well, I don't, but on the other hand I started my work career in
army/navy... So I got planted with hefty amount of healthy paranoia.
Good thing is recent ES's leaks have been that ordinary people get a
wake-up call too. For example Telegram is getting heavy boost as
messaging service in Europe.
no - but at the same time it should not become unusable or undesireable
because of security for the minority of users.
What did I say that would make it unusable?
You need to recognize the user somehow. I think using 3€ NFC sticker
with strong key is both more usable and secure than trying to enter
password in a moving car.
no. my phone is my phone. company can't say squat diddly about it. i
paid for it. it's mine. my property and my rules.
Most adults in Finland only have a company phone, fully paid by company.
It is kind of standard.
for every single enigneer around me. NONE of them had a phone given to
them by their company. they are personal phones paid for and owned by
them, on their own phone plans.
For my case, then company cannot call me (all my numbers are secret). It
has good and bad sides. Good is that I don't get disturbed on work
matters, bad if company wants to reach me, because they can only send
email or a snail mail letter.
well the problem here is... "you don't care". when you don't care what
most customers want, think etc. then we have a problem. there is almost
always a tradeoff of privacy and security vs convenience. most people
I care in a way that I make systems that are secure and easy to use at
the same time, so people get security and privacy without asking for it,
or even being aware of it.
if security is invisible and/or convenient, then it doesn't matter. if
it has no side-effects, then it doesn't matter, but invariably it does not.
My methods are more invisible and more convenient than the less secure ones.
convenience. they ALSO wouldn't mind security and privacy. some people
care more, some less about it, but MOST care less. that's the point i'm
making. let people make their choices.
Exactly, you can easily dial down the security, but if it doesn't exist
in first place, user cannot retrospectively add it.
the problem i see with tizen and security now is that it's aiming for
the most painful and least attractive position *BY DEFAULT* ... with *NO
Now you are not talking about any of the stuff I've been dealing with.
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