Well, Tizen TV in CES belongs to Samsung TV product division. As far as they comply with open source license rule, GPLv2 something like that, They don't have any obligation to open the code. For example, Since Tizen Bluetooth Framework is of Apachev2, they might decide not to open the code in their product. That means, completely out of control from us.
Thanks, Steve > -----Original Message----- > From: Dominig ar Foll (Intel OTC) [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 7:20 PM > To: undisclosed-recipients: > Cc: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Dev] [Tizen 3.0] bluetooth-frwk / NTB > > Steve, > > could you tell us when we will be able to get a look at the BT FW code > which is shipped with the TV launched at CES today ? > > Dominig ar Foll > Senior Software Architect > Open Source Technology Centre > Intel SSG > > Le 06/01/2015 04:11, 전태수 a écrit : > > Hi, > > > > Definitely, we will share the feature list during 12 month since 2.2.1 > sooner or later. > > The features cover the requirements from mobile profile / wearable > profile / TV profile. > > > > BTW, I think [old BT FW] seems to sound too OLD. > > How about [Original BT FW]? > > > > Wish all the bests, > > > > Thanks, > > Steve > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Dev [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dominig > >> ar Foll > >> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 7:11 PM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [Dev] [Tizen 3.0] bluetooth-frwk / NTB > >> > >> Hello, > >> > >> I am afraid that BT NG failed to be accepted in time in Tizen Common > >> and so will not be present in Tizen IVI M 14.4. > >> In the time many issues have been corrected in the olf BT FW in order > >> to get M 14.4 features at the required level. > >> Please note that BT NG will have to be accepted in Common before > >> having chance to be introduced in IVI. > >> > >> In previous chat on this mailing list I express my strong > >> disagreement with a concept of dual stack. > >> > >> Either BT NG is required to get a unified solution and we should have > >> a plan to move to it for all profile by default or the Old BT FW has > >> been changed so much in the last 12 months that it is fit for the job > >> and then the move to BT NG is not required any more. > >> > >> I guess that Samsung TV team has done even more changes in the BT FW > >> in order to release their TV profile than IVI has done to release M 14.4. > >> Would it be possible to get the status (full source and license) of > >> that recent code and its feature level in order to make an up to date > >> comparison in order to be in position to make a good decision. > >> > >> Happy New Year. > >> > >> Dominig > >> > >> Le 26/12/2014 10:57, Zheng, Wu a écrit : > >>> Samsung Enterprise Portal mySingle > >>> > >>> Hi Kim, > >>> > >>> Please check the following points. Thanks. > >>> > >>> Best Regards > >>> > >>> Zheng Wu > >>> > >>> *From:*김승구[mailto:[email protected]] > >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:44 AM > >>> *To:* Zheng, Wu > >>> *Cc:* 전태수; 편도현; 바가바; 우태진; 정지훈; Xu, Martin; > [email protected]; > >> Jia, > >>> Pei P > >>> *Subject:* Re: RE: [Tizen 3.0] bluetooth-frwk / NTB > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> *@ Mikko* > >>> > >>> IMO, 'nothing for T:C' is not an option. > >>> > >>> *[Kim] Does it mean Tizen:common is mandatory for Tizen 3.0?* > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> *@ Wu* > >>> > >>> Hi Kim, > >>> > >>> Thanks for you to pay attention to the status of NTB. > >>> > >>> The following points are my answer. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> 1. Is NTB decided to be in Tizen:IVI? > >>> To my knowledge, In the plan of IVI, NTB will be used. At current, > >>> NTB can’t be used for Tizen;IVI in Tizen 3.0. > >>> > >>> We are trying to fix the related issues of Tizen:IVI in Tizen3.0. So > >>> that NTB can be accepted for Tizen;IVI in Tizen 3.0. > >>> > >>> *[Kim] From Mikko's thread, it will not be included in the next IVI > >>> release.* > >>> > >>> *IVI 14.4 is targeted to be released soon. As time is limited, IVI > >>> 14.4 will not adopt NTB. But in the long run, NTB will keep > >>> readiness for active profiles, including but not limited to IVI.* > >>> > >>>> 2. Is NTB planning to be in Tizen:common? > >>> 1. To my knowledge, In the plan of Tizen:Common, NTB will be used. > >>> However, at current, NTB can’t be enabled in Tizen:Common. > >>> > >>> You have suggested that NTB will be merged to > >>> platform/core/api/bluetooth with a Marco to split the current > >>> bluetooth package and NTB. We think that it is feasible solution for > >>> dual stack. We will accept the solution. (Thanks for your suggestion). > >>> > >>> *[Kim] We first have suggested this, but Martin did not agree on > >>> this suggestion. Can you please check this?* > >>> > >>> *I have talked the topic with Martin. The suggestion can be > >>> accepted.* > >>> > >>> 2. Therefore, NTB will be merged to platform/core/api/bluetooth with > >>> a Marco to implement dual stack. > >>> > >>> *[Kim] I think it would be better to merge NTB after confirming > >>> Tizen bluetooth****direction and deciding to be in IVI release.* > >>> > >>> *For Tizen Bluetooth, we think we (Intel and Samsung team) discussed > >>> this lots of times in the past. To me, the goal is to have an > >>> unified solution to provide better support to different profiles and > >>> emerging features. The initiative we are working on NTB is to solve > >>> problems like we need more simple Bluetooth-Frwk design and support > >>> multi-user mode and so on. We don’t think NTB is already perfect and > >>> fully error-free, but, as the design goal describes, it could help > >>> to solve some real problems we are facing today. * > >>> > >>> *For NTB integration, we think it’s the appropriate time to do this > >>> so in Tizen 3.0 we have more flexibility to adapt to different requests. > >>> Also, please note we have taken long time to do stabilize work and > >>> pass TCT test, so NTB is ready now.*** > >>> > >>> *At the same time, according to our plan and NTB integration > >>> solution(we**(Intel and Samsung team)**have discussed it for a long > >>> time), NTB should be merged at this time to match the related > >>> milestone in our plan too.* > >>> > >>> 3. At current, the Marco will not be default enabled. Therefore, NTB > >>> will not be enabled in Tizen Branch too. It will not impact any > >>> feature and platform. > >>> > >>> We will continue to develop NTB in platform/core/api/bluetooth to > >>> match the related requirements. > >>> > >>> After matching the related requirements, the Marco will be default > >>> enabled and NTB will be default enabled in Tizen branch too. > >>> > >>> *[Kim] If it will not be used for next Tizen:IVI release, I don't > >>> think NTB code need to be merged in Tizen branch.I think developing > >>> in devel branch is more rational until NTB is decided to be included > >>> in Tizen:IVI release (or other profile release). At that time, we > >>> can tell Tizen bluetooth is supporting dual stack, isn't it?* > >>> > >>> *As I mentioned earlier, the target of NTB is not to provide > >>> dedicated support to IVI or specific profile only, so I can’t see > >>> any reason to narrow/bind NTB usage with a specific profile.* > >>> > >>> Any suggestion? Thanks. > >>> > >>> Best Regards > >>> > >>> Zheng Wu > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> *Regards,* > >>> > >>> *Seungku* > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> *From:*김승구[mailto:[email protected]] > >>> *Sent:* Monday, December 22, 2014 2:26 PM > >>> *To:* Zheng, Wu; [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> *Cc:* 전태수; 편도현; 바가바; 우태진; 정지훈; Xu, Martin > >>> *Subject:* [Tizen 3.0] bluetooth-frwk / NTB > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Dear Mr. Zheng Wu, > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> As we already know, bluetooth for Tizen 3.0 is agreed to be dual > >>> stack(bluetooth-frwk/NTB) architecture. I have several questions > >>> regarding this. Would you please give your opinion about below > questions? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> 1. Is NTB decided to be in Tizen:IVI? > >>> > >>> I could see some reported issues regarding IVI NTB at > >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>. So, I want to know > >>> Intel has confirmed to use NTB for TIzen:IVI in Tizen 3.0. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> 2. Is NTB planning to be in Tizen:common? > >>> From "[Dev] NTB-0.3 has released", I could see "NTB-3.0 has been > >>> release and is ready for integration into Tizen-3.0 common". > >>> However, NTB is not currently supporting mobile profile as well as > >>> wearable profile, so I think it cannot be Tizen:common (please refer > >>> https://wiki.tizen.org/wiki/Common). In my opinion, bluetooth-frwk > >>> for Tizen:mobile, NTB for Tizen:IVI, and nothing for Tizen:common > >>> are appropriate solution for the dual stack because no stack is > >>> supporting every profile (e.g., mobile, IVI, wearable, etc.). > >>> > >>> > >>> Based on your answer, I will suggest the specific plan for bluetooth > >>> dual stack such as git repository, branch, etc. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Seungku > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Dev mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> https://lists.tizen.org/listinfo/dev > >> -- > >> Dominig ar Foll > >> Senior Software Architect > >> Intel Open Source Technology Centre > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Dev mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://lists.tizen.org/listinfo/dev _______________________________________________ Dev mailing list [email protected] https://lists.tizen.org/listinfo/dev
