Then I think we agree. I am open to change build tool to e.g. Gradle if that makes things easier and faster for us.
On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't oppose breaking things up into modules, but I'm not sure that we > want to move modules into separate repos: I've seen this in practice at > work and I worry we'll end up with a very complicated build. > > Are we open to the idea of using a different build tool that supports > incremental builds and lets us fix one of the root causes of the slow build > where we need to run the tests three times to do a release? > > I'm willing to put in the time to investigate and prototype a Gradle build > but I don't want to waste my time if we know upfront we want to stick with > Maven. > > Remko > > (Shameless plug) Every java main() method deserves http://picocli.info > > > On May 5, 2017, at 21:11, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.stal...@magine.com> > wrote: > > > > ...but the main reason for breaking up into modules is not build speed. > > > > On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Mikael Ståldal < > mikael.stal...@magine.com> > > wrote: > > > >> I think we should continue to break up things into modules, but keep > them > >> in the same repo. > >> > >>> On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 2:16 AM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Why don't we focus on making the build faster instead of this module & > >>> repo break-up? > >>> > >>> We know this breakup is adding all kinds of complexity but we are only > >>> *hoping* (not sure) that it will make the build faster. > >>> > >>> The way I've heard Ralph and Matt describe it, the build currently > >>> requires the most time consuming part (running the tests) to be > repeated > >>> three times! Wouldn't that be the first thing to look at? > >>> > >>> Is this a Maven issue? Can it be fixed? Are we open to considering > >>> alternatives like Gradle? > >>> > >>> I'm concerned we're focusing on the wrong problem. We can break up the > >>> modules later for the right reasons (dependencies etc). > >>> > >>> Remko > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> (Shameless plug) Every java main() method deserves http://picocli.info > >>> > >>>> On May 5, 2017, at 1:58, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Because the build takes forever. > >>>> > >>>> Ralph > >>>> > >>>>> On May 4, 2017, at 9:00 AM, Mikael Ståldal < > mikael.stal...@magine.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> I am not sure it is worth the effort to keep things in different > repos > >>> at > >>>>> this point. > >>>>> > >>>>> I can see a point in keeping the Scala stuff in its own repo since it > >>> needs > >>>>> Java 8 and scala compiler for building. The same goes for > log4j-kotlin > >>> and > >>>>> any other language bindings we might want to do. > >>>>> > >>>>> But for logging-log4j-tools, why? It has no other build requirements > >>> than > >>>>> the main repo. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 5:55 PM, Gary Gregory < > garydgreg...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 8:08 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I think we should really get the other git repos released before we > >>> make > >>>>>> a > >>>>>>> 2.9 release. The thing holding that back, in my opinion, is > figuring > >>> out > >>>>>>> how to manage the website and documentation for all these separate > >>>>>> modules > >>>>>>> that aren't even in the same Maven project anymore. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Which makes it harder to work with... :-( > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Gary > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 4 May 2017 at 09:44, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.stal...@magine.com > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I have extracted the SocketServer stuff from log4j-core to new > >>>>>>> log4j-server > >>>>>>>> module: > >>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-1851 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> That module is in the new logging-log4j-tools repo. However, that > >>> repo > >>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> not ready for making a release. 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