My take on a higher level is that Java 9 should be released without Jigsaw
and make sure all the toolchains work out of the box, Maven, Gradle, and so
on. Java 9 modules smell of NIH and if I really want modules today there
are solutions out there: OSGi with many implementations, JBoss Modules, and
who knows what else. I'm glad MR pushed back against a meta-module system.

Gary

On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Ralph Goers <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Wow. He is basically saying that Java 9 with the module system is going to
> be released whether or not the expert group approves it or not. I also
> noticed that the link to the Maven core developers responses immediately
> followed the response of Stephen Colebourne who flatly said auto modules
> won’t work and Robert Scholte’s (a core Maven developer) was less than
> enthusiastic.
>
> Personally, I think Stephen is correct. The only thing adding the manifest
> does is declare that when the jar is modularized what its name will be. The
> thing is, you can’t add that manifest entry unless it complies with the
> rules with package names. It seems to me that this is the same as having a
> module-info.java that declares the module name but has no exports or
> dependencies declared.  I am not sure what the result of that will be when
> the jar tries to call something it didn’t declare. If you’ve read the spec
> and found something I missed please let me know.
>
> Ralph
>
> > On May 5, 2017, at 1:09 PM, Gary Gregory <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > FYI: http://mreinhold.org/blog/to-the-jcp-ec
> >
> > Gary
>
>
>


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