On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 10:10 PM, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:

> From what I understand, it's the JSON format itself that has the "don't use
> this for evil" clause which makes it technically not an open source
> license.
>

Wholly turds! Nasty.

Gary


>
> On 24 May 2017 at 00:00, Gary Gregory <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > AFAIK (IANAL), Jackson is ASL 2.0:
> > https://github.com/FasterXML/jackson-core/blob/master/src/
> > main/resources/META-INF/LICENSE
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 9:38 PM, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > So how much does this affect us? Is Jackson affected? Is JSON even
> > > supportable in an open source fashion?
> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > From: Chris Mattmann <[email protected]>
> > > Date: 23 May 2017 at 12:11
> > > Subject: Fwd: JSON License and Apache Projects
> > > To: [email protected]
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear PMCs@,
> > >
> > > Hi! As the new Legal VP, I am reminding everyone that the
> > > grandfather exception for the JSON License and Apache projects
> > > ended last month. As sent by Jim (our prior Legal VP) the relevant
> > > text is below and I want to highlight the following statement:
> > >
> > > --
> > > If you have been using it, and have done so in a *release*, AND there
> has
> > > been NO pushback from your community/eco-system, you have a temporary
> > > exclusion from the Cat-X classification thru April 30, 2017. At that
> > point
> > > in time,
> > > ANY and ALL usage of these JSON licensed artifacts are DISALLOWED.
> > > --
> > >
> > > Thank you for your consideration and attention to this
> > > matter.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Chris Mattmann, VP, Legal ASF
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Jim Jagielski <[email protected]>
> > > Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > > Date: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 9:04 AM
> > > To: legal discuss <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: Fwd: JSON License and Apache Projects
> > >
> > >
> > > Begin forwarded message:
> > >
> > > From: Jim Jagielski <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: JSON License and Apache Projects
> > > Date: November 23, 2016 at 9:10:39 AM EST
> > > To: ASF Board <[email protected]>
> > > Reply-To: [email protected]
> > > Message-Id: <[email protected]>
> > >
> > >
> > > (forwarded from legal-discuss@)
> > >
> > > As some of you may know, recently the JSON License has been
> > > moved to Category X (https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved#category-x
> ).
> > >
> > > I understand that this has impacted some projects, especially
> > > those in the midst of doing a release. I also understand that
> > > up until now, really, there has been no real "outcry" over our
> > > usage of it, especially from end-users and other consumers of
> > > our projects which use it.
> > >
> > > As compelling as that is, the fact is that the JSON license
> > > itself is not OSI approved and is therefore not, by definition,
> > > an "Open Source license" and, as such, cannot be considered as
> > > one which is acceptable as related to categories.
> > >
> > > Therefore, w/ my VP Legal hat on, I am making the following
> > > statements:
> > >
> > > o No new project, sub-project or codebase, which has not
> > >   used JSON licensed jars (or similar), are allowed to use
> > >   them. In other words, if you haven't been using them, you
> > >   aren't allowed to start. It is Cat-X.
> > >
> > > o If you have been using it, and have done so in a *release*,
> > >   AND there has been NO pushback from your community/eco-system,
> > >   you have a temporary exclusion from the Cat-X classification thru
> > >   April 30, 2017. At that point in time, ANY and ALL usage
> > >   of these JSON licensed artifacts are DISALLOWED. You must
> > >   either find a suitably licensed replacement, or do without.
> > >   There will be NO exceptions.
> > >
> > > o Any situation not covered by the above is an implicit
> > >   DISALLOWAL of usage.
> > >
> > > Also please note that in the 2nd situation (where a temporary
> > > exclusion has been granted), you MUST ensure that NOTICE explicitly
> > > notifies the end-user that a JSON licensed artifact exists. They
> > > may not be aware of it up to now, and that MUST be addressed.
> > >
> > > If there are any questions, please ask on the [email protected]
> > > list.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jim Jagielski
> > > VP Legal Affairs
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Matt Sicker <[email protected]>
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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