Related: I was thinking of creating a new _module_ in core called
log4j-bson to provide a BSON Layout. This would be a separate module to
only drag in the BSON library when needed. Part of the breaking up Core
epic.

Gary


On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree with Gary: this is just another Layout. Should not need another
> repo...
> Prototyping on another branch makes sense.
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 1:23 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Bleh, ANOTHER repo? We have so many already... but I see what the big
> > picture is. Would this add a new layout in Core? Maybe we should just
> start
> > with that... then grow...
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I mean in the logging services project. So it'd be a new repo.
> > >
> > > On 19 October 2017 at 10:48, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > When you say “another component in the project” do you mean logging
> > > > services project or log4j? I’d prefer to see you do this in a
> separate
> > > repo
> > > > or at least a branch until we understand what it looks like. If it is
> > > going
> > > > to apply to many things it probably makes sense to be a separate
> repo.
> > > >
> > > > Ralph
> > > >
> > > > > On Oct 19, 2017, at 8:26 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > For generic structured records, I'd probably go with Avro or Thrift
> > > since
> > > > > LogEvents have a lot of standard fields with only a few optional
> > > map-like
> > > > > structures. For optimized log appending, the binary format was
> > proposed
> > > > as
> > > > > a way to append quickly and without garbage IIRC.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 19 October 2017 at 10:21, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> What about BSON?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Gary
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Oct 19, 2017 08:41, "Matt Sicker" <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> I don't have the ticket on hand, but a few months ago, Remko
> > > suggested
> > > > a
> > > > >>> binary logging format that would allow for super fast appends of
> > > > >>> log-specific information along with companion files for
> additional
> > > > >> metadata
> > > > >>> not commonly used in log messages. I've been thinking about this
> > > idea a
> > > > >> bit
> > > > >>> in relation to existing structured layouts (both textual and
> > binary),
> > > > >> and I
> > > > >>> was thinking that it might be a useful format to standardize on
> for
> > > all
> > > > >> the
> > > > >>> logging projects.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> What I'd like to propose is making another component in the
> project
> > > > that
> > > > >>> would contain a reference implementation of encoding and decoding
> > the
> > > > >>> format in Java, C++, .NET, and PHP (or as a C binding for PHP).
> > > > >>> Potentially, this format could be inclusive with other logging
> > > projects
> > > > >>> like Logstash, Logback, Splunk, etc.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> What do you all think? Is this a good idea? Or would this be
> > > > duplicating
> > > > >>> effort from other standards already?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> --
> > > > >>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
> > >
> >
>

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