I just finished reading it. 
Looks great Matt!
Enjoy giving the presentation!

Remko 

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> On Oct 31, 2017, at 6:26, Ole Ersoy <ole.er...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> That's the key - Gotta make it more fun!  Keep it fresh - Ziplock fresh!  
> Freshaliciouss!!
> 
> 
>> On 10/30/2017 04:14 PM, Matt Sicker wrote:
>> Zipkin is a fun topic I wrote a small internal blog post at my client
>> about. The general topic I'm doing a talk on is "The How and Why of
>> Logging" which is generally aimed at providing an overview of logging
>> concepts, common libraries, tools, patterns, etc. Distributed log tracing
>> is certainly a topic I was considering talking about in the talk provided
>> it doesn't go too long.
>> 
>>> On 30 October 2017 at 15:52, Ole Ersoy <ole.er...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Probably a series of blog posts :).  Another thing that would be great is
>>> pumping up some of the new features that log4j2 has that developers will
>>> love.  It reads a little bit like a theoretical intro to logging in general
>>> (Although you did say clearly that that is what it is) and we have a lot of
>>> material like that, so what is it about the presentation that should make
>>> your peers want to pay attention?  I'm sure you'll find that even if the
>>> audience have heard of some of the new log4j2 features, they'll appreciate
>>> a recap.  For example here's a pretty good article on Kotlin that I
>>> recently read:
>>> 
>>> http://petersommerhoff.com/dev/kotlin/kotlin-for-java-devs/
>>> 
>>> A specific example of how to log from both a project dependency, as well
>>> as the core project code, would be great as well.  The FAQ is good, but it
>>> feels a little bit like reading your Denon Receiver's manual ...
>>> 
>>> Could be that throwing in Zipkin (http://zipkin.io/) with the rest of the
>>> reference material (Flume, etc.) would be a valued addition.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 10/30/2017 02:20 PM, Matt Sicker wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I could spend an entire blog post about Logstash and ELK in general, so I
>>>> feel it's out of scope here.
>>>> 
>>>> As for the other questions, I think that's covered by the FAQ <
>>>> https://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/faq.html>, but if it's not, that
>>>> would
>>>> be useful here.
>>>> 
>>>> On 30 October 2017 at 13:52, Ole Ersoy <ole.er...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I thought it was very good.  I'm a big fan of articles that come with and
>>>>> reference simple examples from a github repository.  One of the most
>>>>> confusing aspects of Java logging is configuring it to use one provider
>>>>> when multiple dependencies use different APIs ... SLF4J ... Log4J ... so
>>>>> if
>>>>> that were included / referenced I think it would be a plus.  In case you
>>>>> feel like expanding on the integration with Logstash that would be
>>>>> awesome
>>>>> too.  The ELK stack seems to be getting pretty popular.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ole
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 10/30/2017 01:09 PM, Matt Sicker wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> In preparation for an upcoming talk I'll be doing for CJUG, I'm writing a
>>>>>> blog post about introductory concepts to logging from both a developer
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> operator point of view. My current draft is available here: <
>>>>>> https://github.com/jvz/jvz.github.io/blob/logging/_posts/201
>>>>>> 7-10-30-logging.md>.
>>>>>> Let me know what you think!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>> 
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