Time slipped away yesterday. Doing this today. After this release, I’ll request infra move this repo to GitBox as well so we can start using GitHub directly.
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 08:54, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks for taking a look! I’ll review this today and hopefully can kick > off a new vote. > > On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 01:05, Raman Gupta <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Looks like the build has an issue running `mvn package` due to a >> Surefire plugin problem with JDK10, due to >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SUREFIRE-1439. However, even >> after updating surefire, the build with JDK10 seems to fail due to >> what seems like an incompatibility with the current Kotlin version >> 1.2.31. I upgraded Kotlin to 1.3.0, which was just released, and >> mockito_kotlin to 2.0.0, and fixed both of these issues. >> >> I also added the source plugin into the pom, so `mvn source:jar` now >> generates the source jar. >> >> Kotlin doesn't use javadoc, but instead uses dokka. I've added that to >> the pom as well. However, Dokka also appears to have an >> incompatibility with JDK10: >> https://github.com/Kotlin/dokka/issues/294. So for now, jdk8 must be >> used to build the javadocs. They can be generated via >> dokka:javadocJar. >> >> All of these changes in pull >> https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j-kotlin/pull/6. >> >> Regards, >> Raman >> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 11:35 PM Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > Did that build the source and javadoc jars as well? >> > >> > On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 20:59, Raman Gupta <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> > > Matt, I had no issue building the site with jdk10: >> > > >> > > [INFO] Reactor Summary: >> > > [INFO] >> > > [INFO] Apache Log4j Kotlin API Parent 1.0.1-SNAPSHOT ...... SUCCESS [ >> > > 14.725 s] >> > > [INFO] Apache Log4j Kotlin API ............................ SUCCESS [ >> > > 9.741 s] >> > > [INFO] Apache Log4j Kotlin API Samples 1.0.1-SNAPSHOT ..... SUCCESS [ >> > > 7.062 s] >> > > >> > > I did have a problem with JDK 11 though. >> > > >> > > Regards, >> > > Raman >> > > On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 10:07 AM Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > It’s not the uploading I need help with. The pom config is broken >> > > > somewhere. You can test it locally by changing the deployment >> target to a >> > > > local instance of Nexus or Artifactory or probably even just stage >> it in >> > > > your local file system. In fact, running ‘mvn site’ should be >> enough to >> > > see >> > > > where the build is currently broken. >> > > > >> > > > On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 01:51, Raman Gupta <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > Since I don't have permissions to upload I'm not sure I can >> help... >> > > > > >> > > > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 1:44 PM Matt Sicker <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > It seems like the maven config is broken right now preventing >> me from >> > > > > > performing the release. It doesn't upload the sources or jars >> which >> > > are >> > > > > > required to publish on Maven Central as far as I remember. That >> also >> > > > > breaks >> > > > > > the site generation. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > If you can take a look into fixing that, I can put out a second >> > > release >> > > > > > candidate which should go through the minimal release process >> (three >> > > days >> > > > > > for voting, one day for mirroring to sync up to announce >> officially). >> > > > > > Otherwise, I'm not very experienced with maven plugins, so I'm >> > > currently >> > > > > > blocked there. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 at 11:56, Raman Gupta < >> [email protected]> >> > > wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Following up on this. Any progress towards publication of this >> > > > > artifact? >> > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 3:57 PM Ralph Goers < >> > > > > [email protected]> >> > > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Oh, I guess that is what you published with mvn deploy. >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I would guess you need to release it again. Without knowing >> what >> > > the >> > > > > > > javadoc errors are I’m not sure what to tell you. >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Ralph >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On Oct 12, 2018, at 12:55 PM, Ralph Goers < >> > > > > [email protected]> >> > > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I am seeing a staging repo that it looks like you just >> created. >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Ralph >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> On Oct 12, 2018, at 12:06 PM, Matt Sicker < >> [email protected]> >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> The staging repository in Nexus disappeared. I tried >> > > recreating >> > > > > it by >> > > > > > > > >> running mvn deploy from the tag, but that only deployed >> the >> > > > > binaries >> > > > > > > to a >> > > > > > > > >> staging repository. Running with -Papache-release has >> errors >> > > with >> > > > > the >> > > > > > > > >> maven-javadoc-plugin. Any ideas of what can be done >> here? Do I >> > > > > need >> > > > > > > to make >> > > > > > > > >> a new release candidate? >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 10:49, Matt Sicker < >> [email protected]> >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >>> Oh sorry, I totally forgot about this. >> > > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > > >>> On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 at 18:52, Ralph Goers < >> > > > > > > [email protected]> >> > > > > > > > >>> wrote: >> > > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > > >>>> Despite that, did you finish this? >> > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>> Ralph >> > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> On Oct 10, 2018, at 4:49 PM, Ralph Goers < >> > > > > > > [email protected]> >> > > > > > > > >>>> wrote: >> > > > > > > > >>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> BTW - Remko voted +1 but this is a discussion thread, >> not >> > > the >> > > > > vote >> > > > > > > > >>>> thread. At least for me they show up as separate >> threads. >> > > > > > > > >>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> Ralph >> > > > > > > > >>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> On Sep 24, 2018, at 6:28 PM, Matt Sicker < >> > > [email protected]> >> > > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Scratch that. I’ll finish this tomorrow. Haven’t been >> > > feeling >> > > > > well >> > > > > > > > >>>> since >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> fhe afternoon. >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 13:40, Matt Sicker < >> > > [email protected]> >> > > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> +1 from me. >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> I'll finish up the release tonight. Thanks for >> > > reviewing, and >> > > > > > > sorry >> > > > > > > > >>>> for >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> not getting back to this sooner! >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 at 12:40, Remko Popma < >> > > > > [email protected] >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> wrote: >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> +1 >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 2:03 AM Ralph Goers < >> > > > > > > > >>>> [email protected]> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote: >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks - I finally got a chance to look at the >> release >> > > but >> > > > > it >> > > > > > > still >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> needs >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> one more +1 from a PMC member. >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Ralph >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 14, 2018, at 6:54 AM, Raman Gupta < >> > > > > > > [email protected]> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote: >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Its been 3 months since the last email on this, >> so I >> > > > > figured >> > > > > > > I'd >> > > > > > > > >>>> give >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> it a bump. Thanks! >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Raman >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 4:31 PM Matt Sicker < >> > > > > [email protected]> >> > > > > > > > >>>> wrote: >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Looks like I added the shasum files already. >> Please >> > > feel >> > > > > > > free to >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> review >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> this release. As it's the first version, I'm >> > > guessing I >> > > > > > > might need >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> another >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> RC, but that depends on review. >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 at 12:23, Ralph Goers < >> > > > > > > > >>>> [email protected] >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Well, let me know if you are going to before I >> start >> > > > > > > looking at >> > > > > > > > >>>> it. >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Ralph >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2018, at 9:14 AM, Matt Sicker < >> > > > > [email protected]> >> > > > > > > > >>>> wrote: >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Right. I may need to make a new release >> candidate, >> > > > > though, >> > > > > > > as >> > > > > > > > >>>> the >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> hashes >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> were missing at first. >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 at 10:46, Ralph Goers < >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> [email protected]> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This vote never concluded. I still haven’t >> had a >> > > > > chance to >> > > > > > > > >>>> review >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> it >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> but I >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have not forgotten. >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ralph >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2018, at 12:44 PM, Ralph Goers < >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll try to do this today or tomorrow. >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ralph >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2018, at 10:07 AM, Matt Sicker < >> > > > > > > [email protected]> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apologies for the delay. I've added >> shasums to >> > > the >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> dist.a.o/../dev >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> release >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> area. >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 at 16:30, Matt Sicker < >> > > > > > > [email protected]> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote: >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll add the sha files. >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The example isn't using the release >> candidate, >> > > > > though. >> > > > > > > > >>>> That'd >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> be >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> nice >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have for smoke testing. >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 at 15:32, Raman Gupta < >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> [email protected]> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a simple example in the source: >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j-kotlin/blob/master/log4j-api-kotlin-sample/src/main/kotlin/org/apache/logging/log4j/kotlin/sample/LoggingApp.kt >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And obviously as the primary author of >> this, >> > > my >> > > > > > > non-binding >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> vote >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> it >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 :-) >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raman >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 12:17 PM Matt >> Sicker < >> > > > > > > > >>>> [email protected] >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll try to put together a sample >> project to >> > > demo >> > > > > > > how to >> > > > > > > > >>>> use >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> this. >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure how many of you use or are >> familiar with >> > > > > > > Kotlin. It >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> would >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> also >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great to get some community votes or >> > > feedback. >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 14:10, Matt >> Sicker < >> > > > > > > > >>>> [email protected]> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, we have a brand new Log4j API >> to >> > > > > release, >> > > > > > > and >> > > > > > > > >>>> this >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> is >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release candidate to work with. Below >> are >> > > links >> > > > > to >> > > > > > > > >>>> various >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> pieces >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> of >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release for verification: >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GPG keys: >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/logging/KEYS >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Signed by Matt Sicker >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> (748F15B2CF9BA8F024155E6ED7C92B70FA1C814D). >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Source and binary jars: >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachelogging-1036/ >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Website staging: >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > https://jvz.github.io/log4j-api-kotlin-staging/ >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actual release artifacts (just the >> sources): >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> >> > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/logging/log4j/kotlin/ >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kotlin info: >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://kotlinlang.org/ >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some notes about this release: >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * There is no configuration in the pom >> to >> > > > > automate >> > > > > > > the >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> creation of >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> notes, rat checks, or source and binary >> > > > > > > zips/tarballs. >> > > > > > > > >>>> Thus, >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> convenience of providing binary >> artifacts is >> > > > > only >> > > > > > > > >>>> extended >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> to >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repository version for now. >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * There doesn't appear to be any >> generated >> > > API >> > > > > docs. >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Sicker <[email protected]> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Sicker <[email protected]> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Sicker <[email protected]> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Sicker <[email protected]> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Sicker <[email protected]> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> -- >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Matt Sicker <[email protected]> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> -- >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Matt Sicker <[email protected]> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> -- >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Matt Sicker <[email protected]> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > > >>> -- >> > > > > > > > >>> Matt Sicker <[email protected]> >> > > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> -- >> > > > > > > > >> Matt Sicker <[email protected]> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > -- >> > > > > > Matt Sicker <[email protected]> >> > > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > Matt Sicker <[email protected]> >> > > >> > -- >> > Matt Sicker <[email protected]> >> > -- > Matt Sicker <[email protected]> > -- Matt Sicker <[email protected]>
