I spent some time reading both and I also like the ASF guidelines better. I like the ASF guidelines’ emphasis on values and assuming good intentions. Especially that last bit is missing from the Contributor Covenant Code of Conduct, which seems a bit more distrustful of people’s intentions and (in my view) seems more interested in preventing/punishing bad behavior than encouraging good behavior.
Remko > On Jul 14, 2019, at 2:14, Ralph Goers <[email protected]> wrote: > > I believe I like the ASF guidelines better than the link I provided. I think > following Sling’s example makes a lot of sense. > > Ralph > >> On Jul 13, 2019, at 10:08 AM, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I’ve had to reference the ASF CoC only once so far, though it wasn’t too >> egregious (mostly trolling). I think it’d be a good idea to work on one >> here. We could possibly start with that one, or we could work toward >> improvements if we can identify any. >> >> On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 03:48, Simone Tripodi <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, Ralph! >>> In case you want to read more, (I don't know if you are aware of it, >>> apologise in advance in that case) the ASF also published a code of >>> conduct[1], I think you can have a look at it and having another >>> source that could help choosing the right words. >>> In Apache Sling we use to add the CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md file to every >>> repo on git, linking to the main ASF page, like in [2] >>> HTH, >>> ~Simo >>> >>> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html >>> [2] >>> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-feature-cpconverter/blob/master/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md >>> >>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ >>> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 2:25 AM Ralph Goers <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> FWIW, if you (meaning everyone who reads this) are in favor of the idea >>> I would recommend reading it, walking away, and then reading it again and >>> then determining if you like it as is or if some minor changes need to be >>> made. I’ve just read another article where the wording of a code of conduct >>> caused problems because it seemed to favor some groups over others. >>> Although it is an extremely hard task, my feeling is that everyone should >>> be welcome, treated equally, and with respect. That isn’t always easy to >>> word correctly in a code of conduct. >>>> >>>> Ralph >>>> >>>>> On Jul 12, 2019, at 5:20 PM, Carter Kozak <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Great idea Ralph. I'm in favor of adding this and anything else we can >>> do to make more people feel comfortable contributing! >>>>> >>>>> -ck >>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jul 12, 2019, at 20:02, Ralph Goers wrote: >>>>>> First, I don’t perceive the logging project as having a problem with >>> people’s code of conduct. But some of the reading I have done has indicated >>> that some people feel more welcomed by communities that publish a code of >>> conduct. I am wondering how you all feel about adding >>> https://www.contributor-covenant.org/version/1/4/code-of-conduct.md < >>> https://www.contributor-covenant.org/version/1/4/code-of-conduct.md> to >>> our site and then, of course, doing our best to make sure we adhere to it. >>>>>> >>>>>> I personally am in favor of welcoming anyone who wants to participate >>> in any of the logging projects. Many of them need more attention. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thoughts? >>>>>> >>>>>> Ralph >>>> >>>> >>> >> -- >> Matt Sicker <[email protected]> > >
