BAM! JsonTemplateLayout is merged to master! 🎉🍾 (I needed to wait some for the GitHub write access to get sync'ed with Apache LDAP.)
On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 9:46 PM Volkan Yazıcı <volkan.yaz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I had missed the GitBox Account Linking Matt has mentioned. I have > just completed it and get acknowledged that I "will" have right access > to the logging-* repositories. I don't know if it is a timing issue, > but I still cannot see any "merge" buttons available. I will keep on > refreshing the page. If there is anything else I need to do, please do > let me know. > > On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 6:40 PM Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> > wrote: > > > > I see the squash and merge button at the bottom. I just approved the PR so > > maybe you can see it now? If not, then the steps Matt has provided may be > > needed. We will need to update the new committer email to reflect this if > > that is required. > > > > If you are still having problems and need me to do it I can merge it, but > > it would be great to verify that you can do it. > > > > Ralph > > > > > On May 25, 2020, at 8:49 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Make sure your account is linked properly: > > > https://gitbox.apache.org/setup/ > > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 07:23 Volkan Yazıcı <volkan.yaz...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Ralph, I can indeed see I am a member of the Apache organization. > > >> Though I don't see a "merge" option appearing in the PR page. Could it > > >> be because of the "change request" of yours? If so, would you mind > > >> resolving that request, please? (Sorry, I don't see any other visual > > >> cue to proceed further. Maybe it is just me...) > > >> > > >> On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 12:02 AM Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> > > >> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> You should already have it. > > >>> > > >>> Ralph > > >>> > > >>>> On May 24, 2020, at 2:59 PM, Volkan Yazıcı <volkan.yaz...@gmail.com> > > >> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> Somebody mind giving me write access to the GitHub repo, please? I am > > >>>> not able to merge the PR. > > >>>> > > >>>> On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 3:53 PM Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> > > >> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Feel free to merge it. I will test it there when I can. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Ralph > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> On May 22, 2020, at 4:50 AM, Volkan Yazıcı <volkan.yaz...@gmail.com> > > >> wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Hey Ralph, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Here is my status update: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> -~- Benchmarks -~- > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I have removed the benchmarks results. It takes ~8h for a complete > > >> run > > >>>>>> and I don't want to repeat that cycle after every change. I might > > >>>>>> revisit this idea once JTL becomes more stable in terms of its > > >>>>>> features. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> -~- Flattening of MDC fields -~- > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I have changed the MDC directive as follows: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> mdc > > >>>>>> mdc:flatten[=<prefix>][,stringify] > > >>>>>> mdc:pattern=<pattern>[,flatten=<prefix>][,stringify] > > >>>>>> mdc:key=<key>[,stringify] > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> This also allowed JsonTemplateLayout to produce the *exact* output as > > >>>>>> GelfLayout and EcsLayout, where MDC keys are flattened and values are > > >>>>>> stringified. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> -~- Null termination, newlines, Logstash, and etc. -~- > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I have tried to reproduce the experiment you have shared, though > > >> could > > >>>>>> not really succeed due to some Docker command failure in > > >> restartApp.sh. > > >>>>>> Further, I find the associated Spring setup quite cumbersome to wrap > > >> my > > >>>>>> mind around it. That said, I have done something else: I have > > >> improved > > >>>>>> LogstashIT such that > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> 1. Logstash is configured with both "tcp" and "gelf" input plugins, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> 2. LogstashIT employs JsonTemplateLayout against both inputs, repeats > > >>>>>> the same using GelfLayout and EcsLayout, and verifies the populated > > >>>>>> content in Elasticsearch. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> One can easily validate this on the branch as follows: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> $ ./mvnw clean package -DskipTests > > >>>>>> $ ./mvnw \ > > >>>>>> verify -o -P docker \ > > >>>>>> -pl > > >> log4j-layout-jackson-json,log4j-plugins,log4j-core,log4j-api,log4j-layout-json-template > > >>>>>> \ > > >>>>>> -Dtest="Dummy.java" -DtrimStackTrace=false > > >> -DfailIfNoTests=false > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> One can repeat the very same by running LogstashIT in IDE after > > >>>>>> starting the containers: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> $ ./mvnw \ > > >>>>>> docker:start -o -P docker \ > > >>>>>> -pl > > >> log4j-layout-jackson-json,log4j-plugins,log4j-core,log4j-api,log4j-layout-json-template > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I don't know what is wrong with the Spring Cloud Config setup you > > >> have > > >>>>>> shared, but I have no reasons to believe that JsonTemplateLayout is > > >> the > > >>>>>> suspect. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Regarding your remark about everything getting escaped... This might > > >>>>>> happen when Logstash fails to read an input. In such a case, it puts > > >>>>>> the entire payload into the "message" field (hence, the escaping) and > > >>>>>> stores it like that. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> From now on, I don't know how to proceed with this problem, in > > >>>>>> particular, given I believe the problem is in somewhere else but > > >>>>>> JsonTemplateLayout. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> -~- Merging branch to master -~- > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Unless there are objections, I want to merge the branch to master. > > >>>>>> There on I will share json-template-layout.md with the community to > > >>>>>> collect some feedback on the API. In particular, I have existing > > >> users > > >>>>>> of LogstashLayout in mind. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Kind regards. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 1:18 AM Ralph Goers < > > >> ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> On May 17, 2020, at 2:37 PM, Volkan Yazıcı < > > >> volkan.yaz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Thanks so much for the thorough review Ralph, really appreciated! I > > >>>>>>>> will address issues you have raised. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> [As a side note, I have pushed changes containing performance > > >>>>>>>> improvements and benchmark results. The module is still dependency > > >>>>>>>> free and performance-wise pretty good.] > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> all the default templates separate the message from the exception > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Yes, this I have also realized while studying the source code of > > >>>>>>>> GelfLayout. Some random thoughts: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> 1. How about introducing a firstNonNull-like operator: > > >>>>>>>> ${json:op:firstNonNull:${json:message},${json:exception:message}}. > > >>>>>>>> Parsing this would not be trivial, given the list of variables > > >>>>>>>> can include comma in various forms. Though the rest should > > >>>>>>>> be tractable. (Feels like JsonTemplateLayout directives will at > > >>>>>>>> some point catch up the with ones in PatternLayout.) > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> The problem here is that I want newlines in the message. I’m not > > >> sure what firstNonNull means in the context of a message. The message > > >> itself won’t have nulls. The Gelf format dictates the null is at the end > > >> of > > >> the JSON string. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> 2. How about introducing a fallback parameter to the "message" > > >>>>>>>> directive: ${json:message:fallback=exception:message}. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Again, I don’t know what that means or how it solves my problem of > > >> wanting newlines in the message. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> 3. May I challenge the request: Do one really need it? You store > > >>>>>>>> individual values, i.e, message and exception, in individual > > >> fields. > > >>>>>>>> When one is missing and the other is present, isn't it just a > > >>>>>>>> presentation layer issue to display it properly? > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Picture how a log event looks in a file with a “standard” > > >> PatternLayout. In Kibana by default you get 3 columns, the timestamp, a > > >> field I don’t care about and the message. I want the message to appear > > >> just > > >> as it would in a log file without the timestamp. Yes, I can click on each > > >> message and see its attributes, but that takes longer. And I want > > >> exceptions to jump out at me when I am visually scrolling through > > >> messages. > > >> In fact, I typically don’t want the stack trace in a variable of its own. > > >> Kibana doesn’t take the pieces of the message and put them together like > > >> the pattern layout does. Instead it lets you create columns for > > >> individual > > >> attributes. The problem with that is the columns waste a lot of space, > > >> especially if they frequently are empty as a stack trace would be. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> So yes, I really need it. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> In the logged event all newlines seem to be stripped from the > > >> exception. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> I really don't get this Ralph. Have you seen the tests in > > >> LogstashIT? > > >>>>>>>> I have just added a new one testing only newlines. Would you mind > > >>>>>>>> fiddling around with LogstashIT to reproduce the issue, please? Or > > >>>>>>>> sharing a recipe for me to reproduce it? > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> The way I do it is to install Logstash, ElasticSearch and Kibana > > >> locally on my Mac as well as Docker Desktop for Mac. I then run > > >> SpringCloud > > >> config server from the Log4j Spring Cloud Config project and tailor the > > >> log4j2.xml that is in the config-repo directory of that project. Note > > >> that > > >> all Log4j Lookup variables have to have the $ escaped or Spring Cloud > > >> Config will try to resolve them. It also requires having the Socket > > >> appender connect to a host of “host.docker.internal” to be able to > > >> connect > > >> to Logstash outside of the docker container. I configure Logstash using > > >> the > > >> configuration documented at > > >> http://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/manual/cloud.html < > > >> http://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/manual/cloud.html>, at least when > > >> using Gelf. I configure Kibana with an index of app-*. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> I then modifythe Spring Cloud Config Sample app as needed to work > > >> with this setup and start it using docker/restartApp.sh. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> After starting I do a few things: > > >>>>>>> 1. Enter “docker logs app-container”. This should show it is > > >> running and the last message will be the Spring logo. > > >>>>>>> 2. Look in Kibana and click on the logs. You should see logs from > > >> the server. > > >>>>>>> 3. In a browser enter http://localhost:8080/sample/exception < > > >> http://localhost:8080/sample/exception> - unless you have changed the > > >> port. For some reason I had something running on 8080 and had to change > > >> the > > >> sample app to use 8090. This will generate a stack trace on the web page > > >> and in the log. > > >>>>>>> 4. Look in Kibana. You should see the exception and the stack trace > > >> properly formatted in the message column. It should also display the > > >> thread > > >> id, log-level and other items configured in the pattern. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Logstash does not seem to be getting a null character > > >>>>>>>>> (I tried with both “\0” and “\u0000”) > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> This is weird. Below is how GelfLayout does it: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> if (includeNullDelimiter) { > > >>>>>>>> builder.append('\0'); > > >>>>>>>> } > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> And here is how JsonTemplateLayout does it: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> stringBuilder.append(eventDelimiter); > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Further, there is even a test for this: > > >>>>>>>> JsonTemplateLayout#test_null_eventDelimiter(): > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> final String serializedLogEvent = layout.toSerializable(logEvent); > > >>>>>>>> assertThat(serializedLogEvent).isEqualTo(eventTemplate + '\0'); > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Any ideas on what might I be missing? > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> No - I just know that Logstash wasn’t detecting the null. It looked > > >> like the whole string was being escaped as all the double quotes were > > >> also > > >> escaped as you can see from the example. I should note that I directly > > >> copied that from the Logstash log that was written to the terminal window > > >> with debug logging enabled, so it is possible it was caused by that, but > > >> this is also what I see in Kibana. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> This isn’t valid in the Gelf spec as additional attributes in Gelf > > >>>>>>>>> must match the regex - ^[\w\.\-]*$. This means you need to > > >>>>>>>>> parse the MDC and add each key as an additional to be able > > >>>>>>>>> to create valid Gelf. Personally, I’d like that option anyway. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> For this purpose, I need to introduce an operator similar to > > >>>>>>>> unquote-splicing in Lisp to merge the contents of the child with > > >> the > > >>>>>>>> parent. That said, I have my doubts about the practical benefit of > > >>>>>>>> such a feature. To the best of my knowledge, almost every (sanely > > >>>>>>>> configured?) log pipeline ends up with a structured storage system > > >>>>>>>> containing whitelisted fields. Consider ELK stack. Would you allow > > >>>>>>>> developers to introduce fields at their will? If so, it is a > > >> matter of > > >>>>>>>> time somebody will take down the entire Elasticsearch cluster by > > >>>>>>>> flooding it with ContextData.put(userInput, "doh"). Hence, you > > >> employ > > >>>>>>>> the identical whitelisting strategy at the layout as well: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> { > > >>>>>>>> "version": "1.1", > > >>>>>>>> "host": "${hostName}", > > >>>>>>>> ..., > > >>>>>>>> "_mdc.loginId": "${json:mdc:loginId}", > > >>>>>>>> "_mdc.requestId": "${json:mdc:requestId}" > > >>>>>>>> } > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> What do you think? Shall we really introduce unquote-splicing? > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> I would have preferred a syntax like > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> { > > >>>>>>> “version” “1.1”, > > >>>>>>> … > > >>>>>>> ${json.map:mdc:prefix=“_”} > > >>>>>>> } > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> This would cause the whole map to be emitted. Although it would be > > >> nice to have a version of that which also could specify the keys there > > >> probably isn’t a point to that since you can directly specify them as you > > >> have shown. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> As I said previously, now that I understand what is going on I am > > >> comfortable with you merging the PR. It is going to the master branch so > > >> it > > >> won’t be what users see on the web site right now. By the time it makes > > >> it > > >> there we can get this all straightened out. If nothing else we could > > >> have > > >> the current GelfLayout and the JsonTemplateLayout both on the page and > > >> explain the differences between them, although in the end I agree it > > >> would > > >> be better to have the JsonTemplateLayout replace both the JsonLayout and > > >> GelfLayout. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Ralph > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Kind regards. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 1:28 AM Ralph Goers < > > >> ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> I finally got time to spend looking at the Layout. I now > > >> understand why it works for you and sort of understand why it doesn’t > > >> work > > >> for me. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> First, all the default templates separate the message from the > > >> exception. In the logged event all newlines seem to be stripped from the > > >> exception. This makes viewing them in Kibana pretty awful, but the do get > > >> logged successfully. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> To include newlines in a log event you either have to play games > > >> in Logstash (or Fluentd) and try to put the event back together again > > >> after > > >> it has been separated into multiple lines or you have to use a different > > >> delimiter. Gelf specifies that a null character be used. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> I then tried to use GelfLayout.json with > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> <Socket name="Logstash" > > >>>>>>>>> host="\${sys:logstash.host:-host.docker.internal}" > > >>>>>>>>> port="12222" > > >>>>>>>>> protocol="tcp" > > >>>>>>>>> bufferedIo="true"> > > >>>>>>>>> <JsonTemplateLayout eventTemplateUri="classpath:GelfLayout.json" > > >> eventDelimiter="\0" > > >>>>>>>>> locationInfoEnabled="true"> > > >>>>>>>>> <EventTemplateAdditionalFields> > > >>>>>>>>> <KeyValuePair key="hostName" value="${hostName}"/> > > >>>>>>>>> <KeyValuePair key="_containerId" > > >> value="\${docker:containerId:-}"/> > > >>>>>>>>> <KeyValuePair key="_application" > > >> value="$\${lower:\${spring:spring.application.name:-spring}}"/> > > >>>>>>>>> </EventTemplateAdditionalFields> > > >>>>>>>>> </JsonTemplateLayout> > > >>>>>>>>> </Socket> > > >>>>>>>>> but this did not work at all. Logstash does not seem to be > > >> getting a null character (I tried with both “\0” and “\u0000”) and all > > >> the > > >> events buffer in Logstash until I shutdown the application. Worse the > > >> formatting looks like escaped JSON rather than raw json. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Also, the GelfTemplate contains > > >>>>>>>>> { > > >>>>>>>>> "version": "1.1", > > >>>>>>>>> "host": "${hostName}", > > >>>>>>>>> "short_message": "${json:message}", > > >>>>>>>>> "full_message": "${json:exception:stackTrace:text}", > > >>>>>>>>> "timestamp": "${json:timestamp:epoch:secs}", > > >>>>>>>>> "level": "${json:level:severity:code}", > > >>>>>>>>> "_logger": "${json:logger:name}", > > >>>>>>>>> "_thread": "${json:thread:name}", > > >>>>>>>>> "_mdc": "${json:mdc}" > > >>>>>>>>> } > > >>>>>>>>> This causes the output to contain > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >> \\\"_mdc\\\":{\\\"loginId\\\":\\\"rgoers\\\",\\\"requestId\\\":\\\"266196c1-9702-11ea-9e4a-0242ac120006\\\"} > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> This isn’t valid in the Gelf spec as additional attributes in > > >> Gelf must match the regex - ^[\w\.\-]*$. This means you need to parse the > > >> MDC and add each key as an additional to be able to create valid Gelf. > > >> Personally, I’d like that option anyway. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> I would suggest you attempt to work to make a template that > > >> matches the result of the GelfLayout I had previously documented. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> But now that I understand what is going on I am OK with this > > >> contribution being merged. I would like to get these issues addressed and > > >> update the Logging in the Cloud documentation so that it can document > > >> both > > >> ways of sending to Logstash but we can do that after the code is merged. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Ralph > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 2:23 PM, Ralph Goers < > > >> ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Ok. Now that a release has been cut spending time with your > > >> contribution is at the top of my list. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Ralph > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 1:24 PM, Volkan Yazıcı < > > >> volkan.yaz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Ralph, I've just pushed a commit that adds PatternLayout > > >> support, FYI. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 2:08 AM Ralph Goers < > > >> ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I completely understand how messed up people’s lives are right > > >> now. I’m lucky, all my kids are long gone out of the house. With > > >> COVID-19 I > > >> am able to work from home and while that saves me over 2 hours a day in > > >> commute time and more time because there isn’t much else to do, I end up > > >> spending a lot of the extra time on my $dayjob (and feel lucky I still > > >> have > > >> it). > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. You should care about the checkstyle errors as much as > > >> everyone else ;-). They don’t seem to be a high priority for people to > > >> fix. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Maybe I didn’t make my need for the Pattern Layout clear. > > >> Adding the pattern layout for the JTL is ONLY for the message attribute > > >> (just as I did for the GelfLayout). This allows what is displayed in > > >> Kibana > > >> to look like what you would see in the log file while still allowing > > >> filtering on all the attributes. For me, this is a big deal - I won’t use > > >> the Layout without it. That doesn’t mean it has to be included in the > > >> initial commit. I don’t believe JsonLayout supports it either but I am > > >> hoping to be able to do that today, although I have several other things > > >> I > > >> need to do. What you would end up with is a new attribute called > > >> messagePattern that takes a pattern that is exactly what you would give > > >> to > > >> PatternLayout. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. You can handle the performance issue however you want but > > >> if it was me I would just revert back to using Jackson without a second > > >> thought. I just don’t see the point of trying to roll your own. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> 4. It will take me a while to see what your integration test > > >> does and if it resolves my concerns regarding updating the logging in the > > >> cloud page. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Ralph > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 19, 2020, at 2:30 PM, Volkan Yazıcı < > > >> volkan.yaz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Ralph, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [Due to #COVID-19, day cares are closed. I can hardly spare > > >> time to > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> work, including Log4j. Hence, apologies for my slowed down > > >> progress & > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> responses.] > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I could not put my finger on the performance regression, yet. > > >> I might > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> opt to switch back to Jackson, but I am not gonna do that > > >> without > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> spotting that darn pain in the back. (You might have noticed, > > >> there is > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> actually a class for generating a report out of the available > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> JSON-emitting layouts. I will skip incorporating its output > > >> into the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> manually until I address this performance regression.) > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've just pushed a commit, i.e., LogstashIT, which tests > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> JsonTemplateLayout against ELK stack. Would you mind skimming > > >> through > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> that (small) change, please? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not inclined to incorporate PatternLayout (PL) into > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> JsonTemplateLayout (JTL). JTL is supposed to (ideally) > > >> deliver all the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> functionality provided by PL but in a structured format, > > >> i.e., JSON. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> If there arises a need to fallback to PL, I'd rather add that > > >> missing > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> functionality to JTL. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> You've mentioned about the checkstyle errors. How much shall > > >> I be > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> concerned about them? (It even complains about missing > > >> JavaDocs on > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> class fields.) Are there any particular ones you want me to > > >> address? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Besides these... I think I am done. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 10:49 PM Ralph Goers < > > >> ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Volkan, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m just wondering if you have had a chance to get to this. > > >> As I said, as far as I am concerned this is the only thing getting in the > > >> way of merging the PR. If you would prefer you can just remove the update > > >> to the “Logging in the Cloud” page and push the rest and then update that > > >> page after you have the testing done. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ralph > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2020, at 12:01 AM, Ralph Goers < > > >> ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I said this before, but I see no reason you can’t > > >> have a dependency on Jackson. We currently do for almost all of our JSON > > >> processing. I wouldn’t spend any more time trying to improve the > > >> performance of your custom support, especially since - as I recall - you > > >> had to drop support of a feature because it was hard to implement. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for replacing JsonLayout and GelfLayout, I would > > >> envision that those would continue to exist for backwards compatibility > > >> but > > >> would simply pass their configuration too JsonTemplateLayout. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for moving JSON out of core, we may end up doing that. I > > >> am pretty sure the xml support will require a dependency on the java.xml > > >> module so either that will move out of core or we will have a transitive > > >> dependency on it. Whichever way we go with that I would expect would be > > >> the > > >> same with Json and Yaml. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adding support for formatting the message with the > > >> PatternLayout was pretty trivial. I would prefer to continue to have that > > >> in the example so I would hope it could be added if the example changes. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I said, the issue is Logstash or Fluentd and how they > > >> process messages. Adding the null terminator in the configuration would > > >> make it work on the log4j side as long as you left the logstash > > >> configuration alone. My devops team has tried everything they can think > > >> of > > >> to get exceptions to work and this was the only thing that did without > > >> having to invent convoluted parsing rules. But yet, before we publish > > >> that > > >> I would need to know it had been tested all the way to Kibana. It was > > >> pretty easy for me to set it all up in docker containers. I think the > > >> log4j-spring-cloud-sample project has reference to the docker setup I > > >> used. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ralph > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 11, 2020, at 11:23 PM, Volkan Yazıcı < > > >> volkan.yaz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Ralph, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much for taking time to review such a lengthy > > >> PR, much > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated. Let me try to address your concerns and share > > >> some of > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mine: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does JTL (i.e., JsonTemplateLayout) support Logstash? I've > > >> tried it > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> locally against an actually running Logstash instance and > > >> it has > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worked fine. Though I did not test newlines. I will do > > >> that. In any > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> case, AFAIC, JTL should also support null-termination via > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eventDelimiter="\u0000" configuration. Nevertheless, I > > >> will try both > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and report the outcome. (I wish we would support Docker in > > >> ITs to > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allow tests against such external services, rather than us > > >> doing that > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manually.) > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does "message" directive in JTL support patterns ala > > >> PatternLayout? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, but it is on my TODO list. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can one extend the existing JTL template resolvers, i.e., > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EventResolverFactories? [I've extracted this remark from > > >> your most > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recent GitHub comment.] No, but sounds like a great idea! > > >> This is not > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a necessity for the first release (as you also have > > >> stated), but I > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will see what I can do about it. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now I am busy with a performance regression. After > > >> replacing the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jackson JsonGenerator with the in-house JsonWriter, I've > > >> observed a > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~2x performance degradation. I've been busy with it for > > >> almost a > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> month, but it is really difficult to spare time for it due > > >> to > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> full-time parenting enforced by closed day cares. I do not > > >> want to > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a release before fixing this issue. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can imagine at some point 2.x will ship 3 contending > > >> JSON layouts: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GelfLayout, JsonLayout, and JsonTemplateLayout. That said, > > >> for 3.x I > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggest to deprecate (maybe even remove?) the former two. > > >> Personally, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as a developer, what I find most confusing is a library > > >> providing > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multiple solutions for the same problem without much > > >> tangible benefit > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between each other. I would rather strain from that > > >> dilemma in a > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> library that I contribute to. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Speaking of 3.x enhancements I have in mind, I am in favor > > >> of removing > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all JSON logic (i.e., escaping/quoting routines) out of > > >> core module. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As a motivation, see my earlier post regarding > > >> discrepancies between > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multiple JSON quoting methods. Further, many (incl. you) > > >> also have > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stated their concerns about the size of "core". I don't > > >> think a logger > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should ship JSON encoders, decoders, and such. Though I > > >> did not > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> investigate this issue in detail, that is, what are the > > >> existing > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dependencies, etc. Nevertheless, I wanted to raise this > > >> point. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 11:22 PM Ralph Goers < > > >> ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Volkan, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have looked at the PR and the only remaining thing I > > >> have an issue with are the changes you made to the logging in the cloud > > >> documentation. In my testing, only the Gelf Layout worked properly with > > >> an > > >> ELK stack. This is because Logstash (as well as Fluentd) are parsing the > > >> input trying to figure out where each log event begins and ends. They > > >> typically do that using some sort of pattern but by default look for > > >> newlines. This will cause log events that contain exceptions, which > > >> inherently include newlines) or other events that include newlines in the > > >> message to be broken into multiple lines in Kibana and make it impossible > > >> to filter on them properly. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you tested the changes you have made to the > > >> documentation with a full ELK stack and verified that all log events, > > >> including events with exceptions, are displayed correctly? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, you will notice that the Gelf Layout includes a > > >> MessagePattern attribute that allows the message element to be formatted > > >> using the PatternLayout. Does the Json Template Layout support that? I > > >> don’t see examples of that in any of the template files if it does. If > > >> it > > >> does not, that is another reason I would prefer leaving the page as is > > >> for > > >> now. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ralph > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > > -- > > > Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> > > > >