BAM! JsonTemplateLayout is merged to master! 🎉🍾 (I needed to wait
some for the GitHub write access to get sync'ed with Apache LDAP.)

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 9:46 PM Volkan Yazıcı <volkan.yaz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I had missed the GitBox Account Linking Matt has mentioned. I have
> just completed it and get acknowledged that I "will" have right access
> to the logging-* repositories. I don't know if it is a timing issue,
> but I still cannot see any "merge" buttons available. I will keep on
> refreshing the page. If there is anything else I need to do, please do
> let me know.
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 6:40 PM Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> 
> wrote:
> >
> > I see the squash and merge button at the bottom.  I just approved the PR so 
> > maybe you can see it now? If not, then the steps Matt has provided may be 
> > needed. We will need to update the new committer email to reflect this if 
> > that is required.
> >
> > If you are still having problems and need me to do it I can merge it, but 
> > it would be great to verify that you can do it.
> >
> > Ralph
> >
> > > On May 25, 2020, at 8:49 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Make sure your account is linked properly:
> > > https://gitbox.apache.org/setup/
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 07:23 Volkan Yazıcı <volkan.yaz...@gmail.com> 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Ralph, I can indeed see I am a member of the Apache organization.
> > >> Though I don't see a "merge" option appearing in the PR page. Could it
> > >> be because of the "change request" of yours? If so, would you mind
> > >> resolving that request, please? (Sorry, I don't see any other visual
> > >> cue to proceed further. Maybe it is just me...)
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 12:02 AM Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> You should already have it.
> > >>>
> > >>> Ralph
> > >>>
> > >>>> On May 24, 2020, at 2:59 PM, Volkan Yazıcı <volkan.yaz...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Somebody mind giving me write access to the GitHub repo, please? I am
> > >>>> not able to merge the PR.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 3:53 PM Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Feel free to merge it. I will test it there when I can.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Ralph
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> On May 22, 2020, at 4:50 AM, Volkan Yazıcı <volkan.yaz...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Hey Ralph,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Here is my status update:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> -~- Benchmarks -~-
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I have removed the benchmarks results. It takes ~8h for a complete
> > >> run
> > >>>>>> and I don't want to repeat that cycle after every change. I might
> > >>>>>> revisit this idea once JTL becomes more stable in terms of its
> > >>>>>> features.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> -~- Flattening of MDC fields -~-
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I have changed the MDC directive as follows:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  mdc
> > >>>>>>  mdc:flatten[=<prefix>][,stringify]
> > >>>>>>  mdc:pattern=<pattern>[,flatten=<prefix>][,stringify]
> > >>>>>>  mdc:key=<key>[,stringify]
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> This also allowed JsonTemplateLayout to produce the *exact* output as
> > >>>>>> GelfLayout and EcsLayout, where MDC keys are flattened and values are
> > >>>>>> stringified.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> -~- Null termination, newlines, Logstash, and etc. -~-
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I have tried to reproduce the experiment you have shared, though
> > >> could
> > >>>>>> not really succeed due to some Docker command failure in
> > >> restartApp.sh.
> > >>>>>> Further, I find the associated Spring setup quite cumbersome to wrap
> > >> my
> > >>>>>> mind around it. That said, I have done something else: I have
> > >> improved
> > >>>>>> LogstashIT such that
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 1. Logstash is configured with both "tcp" and "gelf" input plugins,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 2. LogstashIT employs JsonTemplateLayout against both inputs, repeats
> > >>>>>> the same using GelfLayout and EcsLayout, and verifies the populated
> > >>>>>> content in Elasticsearch.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> One can easily validate this on the branch as follows:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  $ ./mvnw clean package -DskipTests
> > >>>>>>  $ ./mvnw \
> > >>>>>>      verify -o -P docker \
> > >>>>>>      -pl
> > >> log4j-layout-jackson-json,log4j-plugins,log4j-core,log4j-api,log4j-layout-json-template
> > >>>>>> \
> > >>>>>>      -Dtest="Dummy.java" -DtrimStackTrace=false
> > >> -DfailIfNoTests=false
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> One can repeat the very same by running LogstashIT in IDE after
> > >>>>>> starting the containers:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  $ ./mvnw \
> > >>>>>>      docker:start -o -P docker \
> > >>>>>>      -pl
> > >> log4j-layout-jackson-json,log4j-plugins,log4j-core,log4j-api,log4j-layout-json-template
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I don't know what is wrong with the Spring Cloud Config setup you
> > >> have
> > >>>>>> shared, but I have no reasons to believe that JsonTemplateLayout is
> > >> the
> > >>>>>> suspect.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Regarding your remark about everything getting escaped... This might
> > >>>>>> happen when Logstash fails to read an input. In such a case, it puts
> > >>>>>> the entire payload into the "message" field (hence, the escaping) and
> > >>>>>> stores it like that.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> From now on, I don't know how to proceed with this problem, in
> > >>>>>> particular, given I believe the problem is in somewhere else but
> > >>>>>> JsonTemplateLayout.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> -~- Merging branch to master -~-
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Unless there are objections, I want to merge the branch to master.
> > >>>>>> There on I will share json-template-layout.md with the community to
> > >>>>>> collect some feedback on the API. In particular, I have existing
> > >> users
> > >>>>>> of LogstashLayout in mind.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Kind regards.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 1:18 AM Ralph Goers <
> > >> ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On May 17, 2020, at 2:37 PM, Volkan Yazıcı <
> > >> volkan.yaz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Thanks so much for the thorough review Ralph, really appreciated! I
> > >>>>>>>> will address issues you have raised.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> [As a side note, I have pushed changes containing performance
> > >>>>>>>> improvements and benchmark results. The module is still dependency
> > >>>>>>>> free and performance-wise pretty good.]
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> all the default templates separate the message from the exception
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Yes, this I have also realized while studying the source code of
> > >>>>>>>> GelfLayout. Some random thoughts:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> 1. How about introducing a firstNonNull-like operator:
> > >>>>>>>> ${json:op:firstNonNull:${json:message},${json:exception:message}}.
> > >>>>>>>> Parsing this would not be trivial, given the list of variables
> > >>>>>>>> can include comma in various forms. Though the rest should
> > >>>>>>>> be tractable. (Feels like JsonTemplateLayout directives will at
> > >>>>>>>> some point catch up the with ones in PatternLayout.)
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> The problem here is that I want newlines in the message. I’m not
> > >> sure what firstNonNull means in the context of a message. The message
> > >> itself won’t have nulls. The Gelf format dictates the null is at the end 
> > >> of
> > >> the JSON string.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> 2. How about introducing a fallback parameter to the "message"
> > >>>>>>>> directive: ${json:message:fallback=exception:message}.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Again, I don’t know what that means or how it solves my problem of
> > >> wanting newlines in the message.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> 3. May I challenge the request: Do one really need it? You store
> > >>>>>>>> individual values, i.e, message and exception, in individual
> > >> fields.
> > >>>>>>>> When one is missing and the other is present, isn't it just a
> > >>>>>>>> presentation layer issue to display it properly?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Picture how a log event looks in a file with a “standard”
> > >> PatternLayout. In Kibana by default you get 3 columns, the timestamp, a
> > >> field I don’t care about and the message. I want the message to appear 
> > >> just
> > >> as it would in a log file without the timestamp. Yes, I can click on each
> > >> message and see its attributes, but that takes longer. And I want
> > >> exceptions to jump out at me when I am visually scrolling through 
> > >> messages.
> > >> In fact, I typically don’t want the stack trace in a variable of its own.
> > >> Kibana doesn’t take the pieces of the message and put them together like
> > >> the pattern layout does. Instead it lets you create columns for 
> > >> individual
> > >> attributes. The problem with that is the columns waste a lot of space,
> > >> especially if they frequently are empty as a stack trace would be.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> So yes, I really need it.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> In the logged event all newlines seem to be stripped from the
> > >> exception.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I really don't get this Ralph. Have you seen the tests in
> > >> LogstashIT?
> > >>>>>>>> I have just added a new one testing only newlines. Would you mind
> > >>>>>>>> fiddling around with LogstashIT to reproduce the issue, please? Or
> > >>>>>>>> sharing a recipe for me to reproduce it?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> The way I do it is to install Logstash, ElasticSearch and Kibana
> > >> locally on my Mac as well as Docker Desktop for Mac. I then run 
> > >> SpringCloud
> > >> config server from the Log4j Spring Cloud Config project and tailor the
> > >> log4j2.xml that is in the config-repo directory of that project. Note 
> > >> that
> > >> all Log4j Lookup variables have to have the $ escaped or Spring Cloud
> > >> Config will try to resolve them. It also requires having the Socket
> > >> appender connect to a host of “host.docker.internal” to be able to 
> > >> connect
> > >> to Logstash outside of the docker container. I configure Logstash using 
> > >> the
> > >> configuration documented at
> > >> http://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/manual/cloud.html <
> > >> http://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/manual/cloud.html>, at least when
> > >> using Gelf. I configure Kibana with an index of app-*.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I then modifythe Spring Cloud Config Sample app as needed to work
> > >> with this setup and start it using docker/restartApp.sh.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> After starting I do a few things:
> > >>>>>>> 1. Enter “docker logs app-container”. This should show it is
> > >> running and the last message will be the Spring logo.
> > >>>>>>> 2. Look in Kibana and click on the logs. You should see logs from
> > >> the server.
> > >>>>>>> 3. In a browser enter http://localhost:8080/sample/exception <
> > >> http://localhost:8080/sample/exception> - unless you have changed the
> > >> port. For some reason I had something running on 8080 and had to change 
> > >> the
> > >> sample app to use 8090. This will generate a stack trace on the web page
> > >> and in the log.
> > >>>>>>> 4. Look in Kibana. You should see the exception and the stack trace
> > >> properly formatted in the message column. It should also display the 
> > >> thread
> > >> id, log-level and other items configured in the pattern.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Logstash does not seem to be getting a null character
> > >>>>>>>>> (I tried with both “\0” and “\u0000”)
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> This is weird. Below is how GelfLayout does it:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> if (includeNullDelimiter) {
> > >>>>>>>>     builder.append('\0');
> > >>>>>>>> }
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> And here is how JsonTemplateLayout does it:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> stringBuilder.append(eventDelimiter);
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Further, there is even a test for this:
> > >>>>>>>> JsonTemplateLayout#test_null_eventDelimiter():
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> final String serializedLogEvent = layout.toSerializable(logEvent);
> > >>>>>>>> assertThat(serializedLogEvent).isEqualTo(eventTemplate + '\0');
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Any ideas on what might I be missing?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> No - I just know that Logstash wasn’t detecting the null. It looked
> > >> like the whole string was being escaped as all the double quotes were 
> > >> also
> > >> escaped as you can see from the example. I should note that I directly
> > >> copied that from the Logstash log that was written to the terminal window
> > >> with debug logging enabled, so it is possible it was caused by that, but
> > >> this is also what I see in Kibana.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> This isn’t valid in the Gelf spec as additional attributes in Gelf
> > >>>>>>>>> must match the regex - ^[\w\.\-]*$. This means you need to
> > >>>>>>>>> parse the MDC and add each key as an additional to be able
> > >>>>>>>>> to create valid Gelf. Personally, I’d like that option anyway.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> For this purpose, I need to introduce an operator similar to
> > >>>>>>>> unquote-splicing in Lisp to merge the contents of the child with
> > >> the
> > >>>>>>>> parent. That said, I have my doubts about the practical benefit of
> > >>>>>>>> such a feature. To the best of my knowledge, almost every (sanely
> > >>>>>>>> configured?) log pipeline ends up with a structured storage system
> > >>>>>>>> containing whitelisted fields. Consider ELK stack. Would you allow
> > >>>>>>>> developers to introduce fields at their will? If so, it is a
> > >> matter of
> > >>>>>>>> time somebody will take down the entire Elasticsearch cluster by
> > >>>>>>>> flooding it with ContextData.put(userInput, "doh"). Hence, you
> > >> employ
> > >>>>>>>> the identical whitelisting strategy at the layout as well:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> {
> > >>>>>>>>   "version": "1.1",
> > >>>>>>>>   "host": "${hostName}",
> > >>>>>>>>   ...,
> > >>>>>>>>   "_mdc.loginId": "${json:mdc:loginId}",
> > >>>>>>>>   "_mdc.requestId": "${json:mdc:requestId}"
> > >>>>>>>> }
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> What do you think? Shall we really introduce unquote-splicing?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I would have preferred a syntax like
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> {
> > >>>>>>>   “version” “1.1”,
> > >>>>>>>   …
> > >>>>>>>   ${json.map:mdc:prefix=“_”}
> > >>>>>>> }
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> This would cause the whole map to be emitted. Although it would be
> > >> nice to have a version of that which also could specify the keys there
> > >> probably isn’t a point to that since you can directly specify them as you
> > >> have shown.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> As I said previously, now that I understand what is going on I am
> > >> comfortable with you merging the PR. It is going to the master branch so 
> > >> it
> > >> won’t be what users see on the web site right now. By the time it makes 
> > >> it
> > >> there we can get this all straightened out.  If nothing else we could 
> > >> have
> > >> the current GelfLayout and the JsonTemplateLayout both on the page and
> > >> explain the differences between them, although in the end I agree it 
> > >> would
> > >> be better to have the JsonTemplateLayout replace both the JsonLayout and
> > >> GelfLayout.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Ralph
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Kind regards.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 1:28 AM Ralph Goers <
> > >> ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I finally got time to spend looking at the Layout. I now
> > >> understand why it works for you and sort of understand why it doesn’t 
> > >> work
> > >> for me.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> First, all the default templates separate the message from the
> > >> exception. In the logged event all newlines seem to be stripped from the
> > >> exception. This makes viewing them in Kibana pretty awful, but the do get
> > >> logged successfully.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> To include newlines in a log event you either have to play games
> > >> in Logstash (or Fluentd) and try to put the event back together again 
> > >> after
> > >> it has been separated into multiple lines or you have to use a different
> > >> delimiter. Gelf specifies that a null character be used.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I then tried to use GelfLayout.json with
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> <Socket name="Logstash"
> > >>>>>>>>>     host="\${sys:logstash.host:-host.docker.internal}"
> > >>>>>>>>>     port="12222"
> > >>>>>>>>>     protocol="tcp"
> > >>>>>>>>>     bufferedIo="true">
> > >>>>>>>>> <JsonTemplateLayout eventTemplateUri="classpath:GelfLayout.json"
> > >> eventDelimiter="\0"
> > >>>>>>>>>   locationInfoEnabled="true">
> > >>>>>>>>> <EventTemplateAdditionalFields>
> > >>>>>>>>>   <KeyValuePair key="hostName" value="${hostName}"/>
> > >>>>>>>>>   <KeyValuePair key="_containerId"
> > >> value="\${docker:containerId:-}"/>
> > >>>>>>>>>   <KeyValuePair key="_application"
> > >> value="$\${lower:\${spring:spring.application.name:-spring}}"/>
> > >>>>>>>>> </EventTemplateAdditionalFields>
> > >>>>>>>>> </JsonTemplateLayout>
> > >>>>>>>>> </Socket>
> > >>>>>>>>> but this did not work at all. Logstash does not seem to be
> > >> getting a null character (I tried with both “\0” and “\u0000”) and all 
> > >> the
> > >> events buffer in Logstash until I shutdown the application. Worse the
> > >> formatting looks like escaped JSON rather than raw json.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Also, the GelfTemplate contains
> > >>>>>>>>> {
> > >>>>>>>>> "version": "1.1",
> > >>>>>>>>> "host": "${hostName}",
> > >>>>>>>>> "short_message": "${json:message}",
> > >>>>>>>>> "full_message": "${json:exception:stackTrace:text}",
> > >>>>>>>>> "timestamp": "${json:timestamp:epoch:secs}",
> > >>>>>>>>> "level": "${json:level:severity:code}",
> > >>>>>>>>> "_logger": "${json:logger:name}",
> > >>>>>>>>> "_thread": "${json:thread:name}",
> > >>>>>>>>> "_mdc": "${json:mdc}"
> > >>>>>>>>> }
> > >>>>>>>>> This causes the output to contain
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >> \\\"_mdc\\\":{\\\"loginId\\\":\\\"rgoers\\\",\\\"requestId\\\":\\\"266196c1-9702-11ea-9e4a-0242ac120006\\\"}
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> This isn’t valid in the Gelf spec as additional attributes in
> > >> Gelf must match the regex - ^[\w\.\-]*$. This means you need to parse the
> > >> MDC and add each key as an additional to be able to create valid Gelf.
> > >> Personally, I’d like that option anyway.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I would suggest you attempt to work to make a template that
> > >> matches the result of the GelfLayout I had previously documented.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> But now that I understand what is going on I am OK with this
> > >> contribution being merged. I would like to get these issues addressed and
> > >> update the Logging in the Cloud documentation so that it can document 
> > >> both
> > >> ways of sending to Logstash but we can do that after the code is merged.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Ralph
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 2:23 PM, Ralph Goers <
> > >> ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Ok. Now that a release has been cut spending time with your
> > >> contribution is at the top of my list.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Ralph
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 1:24 PM, Volkan Yazıcı <
> > >> volkan.yaz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Ralph, I've just pushed a commit that adds PatternLayout
> > >> support, FYI.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 2:08 AM Ralph Goers <
> > >> ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I completely understand how messed up people’s lives are right
> > >> now. I’m lucky, all my kids are long gone out of the house. With 
> > >> COVID-19 I
> > >> am able to work from home and while that saves me over 2 hours a day in
> > >> commute time and more time because there isn’t much else to do, I end up
> > >> spending a lot of the extra time on my $dayjob (and feel lucky I still 
> > >> have
> > >> it).
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. You should care about the checkstyle errors as much as
> > >> everyone else ;-). They don’t seem to be a high priority for people to 
> > >> fix.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Maybe I didn’t make my need for the Pattern Layout clear.
> > >> Adding the pattern layout for the JTL is ONLY for the message attribute
> > >> (just as I did for the GelfLayout). This allows what is displayed in 
> > >> Kibana
> > >> to look like what you would see in the log file while still allowing
> > >> filtering on all the attributes. For me, this is a big deal - I won’t use
> > >> the Layout without it. That doesn’t mean it has to be included in the
> > >> initial commit.  I don’t believe JsonLayout supports it either but I am
> > >> hoping to be able to do that today, although I have several other things 
> > >> I
> > >> need to do. What you would end up with is a new attribute called
> > >> messagePattern that takes a pattern that is exactly what you would give 
> > >> to
> > >> PatternLayout.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. You can handle the performance issue however you want but
> > >> if it was me I would just revert back to using Jackson without a second
> > >> thought. I just don’t see the point of trying to roll your own.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 4. It will take me a while to see what your integration test
> > >> does and if it resolves my concerns regarding updating the logging in the
> > >> cloud page.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Ralph
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 19, 2020, at 2:30 PM, Volkan Yazıcı <
> > >> volkan.yaz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Ralph,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [Due to #COVID-19, day cares are closed. I can hardly spare
> > >> time to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> work, including Log4j. Hence, apologies for my slowed down
> > >> progress &
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> responses.]
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I could not put my finger on the performance regression, yet.
> > >> I might
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> opt to switch back to Jackson, but I am not gonna do that
> > >> without
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> spotting that darn pain in the back. (You might have noticed,
> > >> there is
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> actually a class for generating a report out of the available
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> JSON-emitting layouts. I will skip incorporating its output
> > >> into the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> manually until I address this performance regression.)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've just pushed a commit, i.e., LogstashIT, which tests
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> JsonTemplateLayout against ELK stack. Would you mind skimming
> > >> through
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> that (small) change, please?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not inclined to incorporate PatternLayout (PL) into
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> JsonTemplateLayout (JTL). JTL is supposed to (ideally)
> > >> deliver all the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> functionality provided by PL but in a structured format,
> > >> i.e., JSON.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> If there arises a need to fallback to PL, I'd rather add that
> > >> missing
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> functionality to JTL.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> You've mentioned about the checkstyle errors. How much shall
> > >> I be
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> concerned about them? (It even complains about missing
> > >> JavaDocs on
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> class fields.) Are there any particular ones you want me to
> > >> address?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Besides these... I think I am done.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 10:49 PM Ralph Goers <
> > >> ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Volkan,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m just wondering if you have had a chance to get to this.
> > >> As I said, as far as I am concerned this is the only thing getting in the
> > >> way of merging the PR. If you would prefer you can just remove the update
> > >> to the “Logging in the Cloud” page and push the rest and then update that
> > >> page after you have the testing done.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ralph
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2020, at 12:01 AM, Ralph Goers <
> > >> ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I said this before, but I see no reason you can’t
> > >> have a dependency on Jackson. We currently do for almost all of our JSON
> > >> processing. I wouldn’t spend any more time trying to improve the
> > >> performance of your custom support, especially since - as I recall - you
> > >> had to drop support of a feature because it was hard to implement.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for replacing JsonLayout and GelfLayout, I would
> > >> envision that those would continue to exist for backwards compatibility 
> > >> but
> > >> would simply pass their configuration too JsonTemplateLayout.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for moving JSON out of core, we may end up doing that. I
> > >> am pretty sure the xml support will require a dependency on the java.xml
> > >> module so either that will move out of core or we will have a transitive
> > >> dependency on it. Whichever way we go with that I would expect would be 
> > >> the
> > >> same with Json and Yaml.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adding support for formatting the message with the
> > >> PatternLayout was pretty trivial. I would prefer to continue to have that
> > >> in the example so I would hope it could be added if the example changes.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I said, the issue is Logstash or Fluentd and how they
> > >> process messages. Adding the null terminator in the configuration would
> > >> make it work on the log4j side as long as you left the logstash
> > >> configuration alone.  My devops team has tried everything they can think 
> > >> of
> > >> to get exceptions to work and this was the only thing that did without
> > >> having to invent convoluted parsing rules. But yet, before we publish 
> > >> that
> > >> I would need to know it had been tested all the way to Kibana. It was
> > >> pretty easy for me to set it all up in docker containers. I think the
> > >> log4j-spring-cloud-sample project has reference to the docker setup I 
> > >> used.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ralph
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 11, 2020, at 11:23 PM, Volkan Yazıcı <
> > >> volkan.yaz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Ralph,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much for taking time to review such a lengthy
> > >> PR, much
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated. Let me try to address your concerns and share
> > >> some of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mine:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does JTL (i.e., JsonTemplateLayout) support Logstash? I've
> > >> tried it
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> locally against an actually running Logstash instance and
> > >> it has
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worked fine. Though I did not test newlines. I will do
> > >> that. In any
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> case, AFAIC, JTL should also support null-termination via
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eventDelimiter="\u0000" configuration. Nevertheless, I
> > >> will try both
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and report the outcome. (I wish we would support Docker in
> > >> ITs to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allow tests against such external services, rather than us
> > >> doing that
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manually.)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does "message" directive in JTL support patterns ala
> > >> PatternLayout?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, but it is on my TODO list.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can one extend the existing JTL template resolvers, i.e.,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EventResolverFactories? [I've extracted this remark from
> > >> your most
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recent GitHub comment.] No, but sounds like a great idea!
> > >> This is not
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a necessity for the first release (as you also have
> > >> stated), but I
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will see what I can do about it.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now I am busy with a performance regression. After
> > >> replacing the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jackson JsonGenerator with the in-house JsonWriter, I've
> > >> observed a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~2x performance degradation. I've been busy with it for
> > >> almost a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> month, but it is really difficult to spare time for it due
> > >> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> full-time parenting enforced by closed day cares. I do not
> > >> want to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a release before fixing this issue.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can imagine at some point 2.x will ship 3 contending
> > >> JSON layouts:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GelfLayout, JsonLayout, and JsonTemplateLayout. That said,
> > >> for 3.x I
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggest to deprecate (maybe even remove?) the former two.
> > >> Personally,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as a developer, what I find most confusing is a library
> > >> providing
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multiple solutions for the same problem without much
> > >> tangible benefit
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between each other. I would rather strain from that
> > >> dilemma in a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> library that I contribute to.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Speaking of 3.x enhancements I have in mind, I am in favor
> > >> of removing
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all JSON logic (i.e., escaping/quoting routines) out of
> > >> core module.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As a motivation, see my earlier post regarding
> > >> discrepancies between
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multiple JSON quoting methods. Further, many (incl. you)
> > >> also have
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stated their concerns about the size of "core". I don't
> > >> think a logger
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should ship JSON encoders, decoders, and such. Though I
> > >> did not
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> investigate this issue in detail, that is, what are the
> > >> existing
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dependencies, etc. Nevertheless, I wanted to raise this
> > >> point.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 11:22 PM Ralph Goers <
> > >> ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Volkan,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have looked at the PR and the only remaining thing I
> > >> have an issue with are the changes you made to the logging in the cloud
> > >> documentation. In my testing, only the Gelf Layout worked properly with 
> > >> an
> > >> ELK stack. This is because Logstash (as well as Fluentd) are parsing the
> > >> input trying to figure out where each log event begins and ends. They
> > >> typically do that using some sort of pattern but by default look for
> > >> newlines. This will cause log events that contain exceptions, which
> > >> inherently include newlines) or other events that include newlines in the
> > >> message to be broken into multiple lines in Kibana and make it impossible
> > >> to filter on them properly.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you tested the changes you have made to the
> > >> documentation with a full ELK stack and verified that all log events,
> > >> including events with exceptions, are displayed correctly?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, you will notice that the Gelf Layout includes a
> > >> MessagePattern attribute that allows the message element to be formatted
> > >> using the PatternLayout. Does the Json Template Layout support that? I
> > >> don’t see examples of that in any of the template files if it does.  If 
> > >> it
> > >> does not, that is another reason I would prefer leaving the page as is 
> > >> for
> > >> now.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ralph
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > > --
> > > Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
> >
> >

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