Maybe thinking naively but... Can't we just set the ThreadLocal to null at
shutdown?

On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 5:04 PM Ralph Goers <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I am having a difficult time locating the conversation with Ceki but it
> happened years ago either on the SLF4J or Logback lists. The serialization
> of objects in the MDC was just one issue. As I recall the larger issue
> related to ClassLoaders.
>
> We don’t have problems putting objects into a ThreadLocal because we are
> careful about what we put there and how long it stays. In other words, we
> control the ThreadLocal and its contents. With the ThreadContext we control
> the ThreadLocal but we don’t control its contents. This means that if an
> application tries to shutdown any objects left in the ThreadLocal that are
> owned by the ClassLoader of the application will cause the undeployment of
> the application to fail. S I recall that is the main reason Ceki decided to
> only support Strings in the MDC when he created SLF4J. When I created the
> Log4j 2 API I couldn’t find a flaw in that reasoning.
>
> Theoretically it would be possible to support primitive objects and any
> objects owned by a parent ClassLoader so long as they don’t reference
> anything owned by the application ClassLoader, but validating that would be
> a nightmare. The only way I know of to support primitive objects would be
> to provide overloaded methods for each of the types we would want to
> support.
>
> Ralph
>
> > On Mar 5, 2021, at 5:57 AM, Remko Popma <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > I think so yes.
> > But a quick read doesn’t show drawbacks.
> > Maybe I’ll remember later.
> >
> >
> >> On Mar 5, 2021, at 21:54, Volkan Yazıcı <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Are you referring to LOG4J2-1648
> >> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-1648>?
> >>
> >>> On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 1:45 PM Remko Popma <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> There should be an existing JIRA that contains fairly extensive
> analysis
> >>> on this topic.
> >>>
> >>> There are some implications/drawbacks, can’t remember off the top of my
> >>> head.
> >>>
> >>> Would need to look at the ticket but no time now, maybe tomorrow.
> >>>
> >>>>> On Mar 5, 2021, at 19:45, Volkan Yazıcı <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello,
> >>>>
> >>>> In the past couple of months I have received two complaints from
> people
> >>> who
> >>>> want to put non-String values into the ThreadContextMap.
> >>>> ThreadContext.put*() methods only accept String values, whereas 2 of
> the
> >>> 3
> >>>> backend maps (GarbageFreeSortedArrayThreadContextMap,
> >>>> CopyOnWriteSortedArrayThreadContextMap) and the exposed
> ReadOnlyStringMap
> >>>> interface support non-String values. (The one out of 3,
> >>>> DefaultThreadContextMap, employed when thread locals are disabled,
> only
> >>>> supports String values.) I want to improve this situation by
> supporting
> >>>> Object values in ThreadContextMap. Is this a known issue? What would
> be
> >>> the
> >>>> implications of extending ThreadContextMap? I will appreciate some
> >>> guidance
> >>>> on this issue.
> >>>>
> >>>> Kind regards.
> >>>
> >
>
>
>

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