I haven't had a test flake locally in the last 6 months (at least), if we see 
flaky tests I'm in favor of fixing them rather than working around them.

fwiw the non GitHub-actions tests work great on the release-2.x branch in my 
experience, when they aren't overwhelmed accessing build nodes anyhow. That 
said, I would prefer to get everything workin on GitHub actions as it seems to 
be the gold standard these days.

> Last time I tried I couldn't get the mainline code to load in IntelliJ or 
> Eclipse because of the packing changes that were in progress.

I find release-2.x works nicely with IntelliJ idea when I set the project-level 
sdk to jdk8. the master branch may be another story. I have an INFRA ticket 
open to switch the default branch to reduce confusion: 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-22641

-ck

On Thu, Dec 23, 2021, at 12:25, Tim Perry wrote:
> Is it worth marching those tests with @Ignore and filing a Jira for each
> one? That does seem to set a bad precedent though.
> 
> Last time I tried I couldn't get the mainline code to load in IntelliJ or
> Eclipse because of the packing changes that were in progress. Did that get
> fixed? If so, I might be able to carve out some time to look at a couple
> tests if you point me in the right direction.
> 
> Tim
> 
> On Thu, Dec 23, 2021 at 7:24 AM Volkan Yazıcı <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > Since, there are some tests which occasionally constantly fail, we use
> > `-Dmaven.test.failure.ignore=true` in `verify` goal. This causes a build
> > with test failures to be marked green. The 3rd party component,
> > `scacap/action-surefire-report@v1`, is used to feed these failures back
> > into GitHub Actions status with some pretty printing. But since the PR is
> > opened by a user who doesn't have commit rights, the 3rd party component
> > fails to mark the failures due to insufficient privileges. In
> > `.github/workflows/main.yml`, I had introduced the `if: github.repository
> > == 'apache/logging-log4j2'` line to work around this, but apparently it is
> > broken again.
> >
> > I totally share your frustration, same here. Though sparing time to fix
> > this is pretty difficult nowadays.
> >
> > I also need to confess, in those brief moments of insanity, I contemplate
> > nuking all those flaky tests. This will simplify the CI magic a lot and
> > enhance our confidence in the tests.
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 3:10 AM Gary Gregory <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > After getting https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/pull/646 in what
> > I
> > > think is a good state, I have no idea if it is safe or not to merge
> > because
> > > the 1st build GitHub shows is red:
> > >
> > >
> > https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/runs/4589771553?check_suite_focus=true
> > >
> > > I don't use GH actions the way we do here and I'm not sure why we need
> > the
> > > publish test result set when anyone can just look at the build logs.
> > >
> > > Gary
> > >
> >
> 

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