I'll check out your branch - there are a ton of features, I'll put
some documentation together on what exists.

Advertiser support is already there now btw.

Scott

On 2/21/22, Robert Middleton <rmiddle...@apache.org> wrote:
> I've finished removing log4j1 from Chainsaw.  If anybody would like to take
> a look, it is in a PR here:
> https://github.com/apache/logging-chainsaw/pull/11
>
> The next steps probably are:
> * Make sure dependencies are up to date
> * Create a better way of documenting how receivers work other than just
> throwing javadoc at the user
> * Create a full tutorial and documentation for chainsaw, since the
> documentation is pretty non-existent now
> * Integrate with the Advertisers that log4j2 has so you can easily connect
> to an application using log4j2
> * Look at JDeploy that Matt linked to and determine if that would be a good
> way to distribute chainsaw
>
> -Robert Middleton
>
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 2:02 PM Robert Middleton <rmiddle...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the input.  In that case I will certainly make sure that we
>> do keep the VFSLogFilePatternReceiver.
>>
>> One thing that would be helpful if you have time Scott would be a
>> manual on how to use Chainsaw and the features that it has.  I
>> understand it enough now, but for people first trying to use it there
>> isn't really any good documentation.
>>
>> -Robert Middleton
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 1:17 AM Scott Deboy <scott.de...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Looks great!
>> >
>> > It's a lot of work for sure - lots more to do to fully remove log4j1 -
>> > custom level support (java.util.logging and Android for example),
>> > support for UI-based interactions for some receivers(activateOptions),
>> > and the loggerRepository extension pieces.
>> >
>> > I definitely want to see VFSLogFilePatternReceiver preserved of course
>> > - it's turned out to be a very useful Receiver (parse mostly-arbitrary
>> > log formats, even remote/ssh).
>> >
>> > Happy to help I just never have much time.
>> >
>> > Scott
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 1/16/22, Robert Middleton <rmiddle...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > > I've been working on this for a little bit now, and I do have
>> > > something that mostly seems to work.  This has been made somewhat
>> > > more
>> > > difficult by the very tight coupling that Chainsaw has with log4j1
>> > > and
>> > > its plugin framework.  At this point, I've done the following:
>> > >
>> > > * Remove dependency on log4j1-extras
>> > > * Add in log4j2 dependencies for logging
>> > > * Create a generic Chainsaw log event that is used to pass log events
>> > > around internally
>> > > * Rework the receivers framework to use ServiceLoader instead of some
>> > > home-grown system
>> > >
>> > > If people are willing to take a look at what I've done so far, the
>> > > (very rough still) branch is here:
>> > > https://github.com/rm5248/logging-chainsaw/tree/remove-log4j1
>> > >
>> > > There are still a number of bugs in it still, since there's  a fair
>> > > amount of invasive surgery.  If you want to test, you'll need to do
>> > > the following:
>> > > 1. Remove your ~/.chainsaw directory(this may or may not be needed;
>> > > it
>> > > doesn't seem to like to load old settings at the moment)
>> > > 2. Start chainsaw
>> > > 3. Open the 'receivers' panel(icon that looks like a satellite dish)
>> > > 4. Create  a new JSON receiver.  There's only one option, so you can
>> click
>> > > 'ok'
>> > > 5. Run log4j2 with a configuration file similar to the following:
>> > >
>> > > ?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
>> > > <Configuration status="WARN">
>> > >   <Appenders>
>> > >     <Console name="Console" target="SYSTEM_OUT">
>> > >       <PatternLayout pattern="LOG4J2 %d{HH:mm:ss.SSS} [%t] %-5level
>> > > %logger{36} - %msg%n"/>
>> > >     </Console>
>> > >     <Socket name="socket" host="localhost" port="4449">
>> > >       <JsonTemplateLayout></JsonTemplateLayout>
>> > >     </Socket>
>> > >   </Appenders>
>> > >   <Loggers>
>> > >     <Root level="trace">
>> > >       <AppenderRef ref="Console"/>
>> > >       <AppenderRef ref="socket"/>
>> > >     </Root>
>> > >   </Loggers>
>> > > </Configuration>
>> > >
>> > > You should then see log messages showing up in a new tab.
>> > >
>> > > -Robert Middleton
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 6:32 AM Volkan Yazıcı <vol...@yazi.ci> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> +1 for implementation-agnostic custom DTO tailored for Chainsaw.
>> > >>
>> > >> On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 9:31 PM Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > I agree on the generic approach. While there’s a LogEvent
>> > >> > interface
>> in
>> > >> > log4j2, it would probably make sense for Chainsaw to define its
>> > >> > own
>> > >> > DTOs
>> > >> > and such.
>> > >> > --
>> > >> > Matt Sicker
>> > >> >
>> > >> > > On Dec 26, 2021, at 15:50, Ralph Goers <
>> ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
>> > >> > wrote:
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Scott has been sort of maintaining Chainsaw on his own for
>> > >> > > years.
>> I
>> > >> > > am
>> > >> > sure he would love new energy in the project.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > I think isolating it from any logging framework implementation
>> would
>> > >> > > be
>> > >> > a good thing.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Ralph
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >> On Dec 26, 2021, at 2:13 PM, Robert Middleton
>> > >> > >> <rmiddle...@apache.org>
>> > >> > wrote:
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> I've been looking into Chainsaw to remove Log4j1, since that is
>> > >> > >> rather
>> > >> > >> obsolete at this point.  Unfortunately, Chainsaw is closely
>> > >> > >> tied
>> to
>> > >> > >> Log4j1, as it seems that what happens is when it receives
>> > >> > >> events
>> > >> > >> from
>> > >> > >> a source, it sends the messages to a custom LoggerRepository
>> with a
>> > >> > >> custom appender that will then show the log messages.
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> There are also a handful of classes from the log4j1 extras
>> package
>> > >> > >> that are used as well, such as Rule.
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> It seems to me that the proper way to do this then is to:
>> > >> > >> * Copy any of the log4j1 extras classes we need into Chainsaw
>> > >> > >> * Define an internal representation of log messages so that we
>> don't
>> > >> > >> depend on the log4j1 LoggingEvent class(perhaps a modified
>> version
>> > >> > >> of
>> > >> > >> the log4j1 LoggingEvent)
>> > >> > >> * Refactor the code so that when a log event comes in, we
>> > >> > >> simply
>> > >> > >> push
>> > >> > >> it to whatever tab we want to see it on, instead of indirectly
>> via
>> > >> > >> log4j1.
>> > >> > >> * Create a custom Appender for log4j2 so that we can still see
>> > >> > >> internal Chainsaw messages within Chainsaw, and convert
>> > >> > >> internal
>> log
>> > >> > >> messages to log4j2.
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> Thoughts?
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> -Robert Middleton
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >
>>
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