Thanks for the clarification Ralph.

I understand the rationale for unix logs. I believe we should reassess this
default for the following reasons:

   - Users rarely feed service app logs to system logs. Those who do,
   simply ingest lines intact without any timestamp prefixing.
   - I have never seen a single logging pattern/configuration without a
   timestamp. StatusLogger is the only outlier I know of.
   - Since feeding Log4j to system logs constitute a minority of the use
   cases, I doubt if we should adjust the default according to that. (That is,
   people mostly either write/rotate to files via Log4j or send over the
   network to a log sink.)

(I am of course biased in my conclusions due to my limited sample space.
Please weigh in, if you think otherwise.)

Due to reasons I shared above, I suggest changing the default behavior such
that StatusLogger renders a timestamp and users can simply disable this, if
needed. If backward compatibility is a big concern, I suggest implementing
this for 3.


On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 10:00 PM Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
wrote:

> It does need to be optional. If you are running your app as a service on
> Linux/Unix the logs will already contain a timestamp because they get
> routed to the system log. So having a timestamp in them makes them ugly for
> that case.
>
> Ralph
>
> > On Aug 26, 2022, at 5:39 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I've found that odd myself just like Maven output does not contain
> > timestamps, might be for "simplest possible output". I'm all for adding
> > these.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 26, 2022, 03:36 Volkan Yazıcı <vol...@yazi.ci> wrote:
> >
> >> Is there any particular reason we don't render the timestamp and thread
> >> name in StatusLogger?
> >>
>
>

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