Hi all, In a Slack discussion Volkan proposed (among other things) to:
* raise the Java requirements in 3.x to Java 17. It is the same requirement as Spring Boot 3.x has, so I don't see a reason to lower the bar. Besides Java 21 will be an LTS. * deprecate some modules in 2.x and drop them in 3.0.x, restore them if a user requests it in 3.1.x. While the number of downloads is not the only criterium (a big company with an internal Maven repo counts 1, a student's project that tries multiple version counts more), these are the stats for last month: 1 log4j-bom 35178445 2 log4j-api 30598923 3 log4j-core 15567816 4 log4j-to-slf4j 14036879 5 log4j-slf4j-impl 8675173 6 log4j-1.2-api 3454601 7 log4j-jul 2120049 8 log4j-web 1964937 9 log4j-layout-template-json 1760437 10 log4j-slf4j2-impl 1013605 11 log4j-jcl 566636 12 log4j-appserver 245029 13 log4j-iostreams 209990 14 log4j-spring-boot 87578 15 log4j-spring-cloud-config-client 38332 16 log4j-jakarta-web 37351 17 log4j-jpl 20295 18 log4j-flume-ng 14055 19 log4j-taglib 13989 20 log4j-couchdb 12781 21 log4j-mongodb4 4623 22 log4j-kubernetes 2618 23 log4j-jpa 1252 24 log4j-mongodb3 1143 25 log4j-docker 1122 26 log4j-cassandra 898 27 log4j-jakarta-smtp 741 28 log4j-jdbc-dbcp2 708 29 log4j-to-jul 297 I propose to have a bar at 100k, so we keep everything up to `log4j-iostreams` + some modules under the line that are deemed important. I would keep `log4j-to-jul`, mainly because it is a third implementation of the Log4j API and I used it at work, when I didn't get the permission to use Log4j Core. NB: the `2.x` version of `log4j-to-jul` will still work with the `3.x` version of `log4j-api`, but it might require a modularized version to be fully compatible. The stats of `log4j-appserver` are unexpected. I guess the Jetty 9.x support drives it (Jetty 9.x reached EOL) more than the Tomcat support. So we could even deprecate this one and create a `log4j-tomcat` module or drop it entirely (I will pick up the Tomcat part in my `eu.copernik` modules). Piotr PS: The downloads of the 3.x modules split from `log4j-core` are not that great either. In the third column I renormalize them so that `log4j-core` has 15M downloads: log4j-core 78627 15567816 1 log4j-jdbc 55 10890 2 log4j-layout-jackson 55 10890 3 log4j-jndi 44 8712 4 log4j-script 44 8712 5 log4j-kafka 40 7920 6 log4j-jms 39 7722 7 log4j-csv 38 7524 8 log4j-jeromq 37 7326 9 log4j-smtp 37 7326 10 log4j-layout-jackson-json 33 6534 11 log4j-layout-jackson-xml 30 5940 12 log4j-layout-jackson-yaml 24 4752