Hi,

what is the purpose of log4j-server actually?
I don't find any information about it.

I wonder, if this has a real use case (Gary uses it) but no releases, should we 
create a Sandbox/Lab?
Personally, if this just for example purposes, we maybe should actually move it 
-samples as suggested below.

This thread is 8 days old, probably it is safe to move this repo now - we can 
always -1 a commit if there is still an objection

Kind regards,
Christian


On Mon, Sep 18, 2023, at 10:09, Volkan Yazıcı wrote:
> Hey Gary,
>
> I'd appreciate your response on this `dev@` thread. I am cleaning up all
> repositories and trying to either (in order of preference)
>
>    1. delete them (since they are practically empty or irrelevant)
>    2. archive them (clearly communicate it to the users that nobody is
>    working on these projects, they are not maintained, etc. the repository is
>    there only for archival purposes. note the archival is a reversible
>    operation.)
>    3. modernize them (make `./mvnw clean verify` work flawlessly on
>    multiple platforms, erect the CI, updated dependencies, setup `dependabot`,
>    clean up `pom.xml`s, docs, `README.adoc`, etc.)
>
> From this point of view, we (Ralph, Piotr, and me) are in favor of
> archiving `logging-log4j-server` and moving the `log4j-server` module to
> `logging-log4j-samples`, which is completely modernized. Is that okay with
> you?
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 8:25 PM Volkan Yazıcı <vol...@yazi.ci> wrote:
>
>> Gary, you haven't replied to this question of mine yet. I'd like to
>> know more about your use case.
>>
>> I had a call with Ralph and he stated `log4j-server` is not usable
>> without customizations. Hence, he added, it is better suited to
>> `log4j-samples`. I liked this idea. Do you have any objections if we
>> archive the `log4j-server` and move its content to `log4j-samples`
>> instead?
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 3:16 PM Volkan Yazıcı <vol...@yazi.ci> wrote:
>> >
>> > The project doesn't have any releases, how do you use it at work? Note
>> that once they are retired (i.e., archived) you will still have access to
>> the sources.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 3:06 PM Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Yes, we use logging-log4j-server at work.
>> >>
>> >> Gary
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 8:15 AM Volkan Yazıcı <vol...@yazi.ci> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I propose retiring `logging-log4j-server`
>> >> > <https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j-server> and
>> `logging-log4j-audit`
>> >> > <https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j-audit> repositories (which
>> never
>> >> > had any releases) and making it clear in their READMEs that these
>> >> > repositories exist only for archival purposes. Objections?
>>

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