+1

Fix the staging site. Defer talk about anything else until that is done.

Ralph

> On Oct 22, 2023, at 5:05 PM, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Oct 22, 2023, at 21:54, Volkan Yazıcı wrote:
>> It has been a long thread and I want to capture the result: *there are no
>> objections to Piotr's proposal, right?* If not, please say so.
> 
> I am not objecting, but I would like to point out that logging.s.a.o is in 
> bad shape today, and I don't know why (in detail). I'd love to have this 
> working again before we move on to a different system. 
> If you know how to fix the system in a way that works with the original 
> proposal in one go, I am okay with it, too. However, I am afraid we are 
> touching too many wheels at once and navigating in a bad state.
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> To avoid misunderstanding, I want to repeat certain points one more time:
>> 
>>   1. All existing logging.apache.org URLs will remain as is – no changes
>>   there.
>>   2. Instead of using logging.*staged.*apache.org*/foo*, we will use
>>   logging*-foo.staged.*apache.org for staging websites.
>>   3. Log4j Scala, Kotlin, Tools, and Transformation website content will
>>   be moved from `logging-log4j-site` repository to `logging-log4j-scala`,
>>   `logging-log4j-kotlin`,  `logging-log4j-tools`, and
>>   `logging-log4j-transformation` repositories, respectively.
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 10:03 AM Piotr P. Karwasz <piotr.karw...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Since now we have a fast release process It might happen (and it
>>> already did) that the voting periods for releases will not be
>>> disjoint.
>>> 
>>> That is why I would like to introduce a convention on the procedure to
>>> stage websites and Nexus repositories.
>>> 
>>> For websites I would propose:
>>> 
>>> 1. Every Git code repository uses a different staging domain name.
>>> E.g. `logging-log4j2` would set:
>>> 
>>> staging:
>>>  profile: log4j2
>>> 
>>> which will result in a https://logging-log4j2.staged.apache.org URI.
>>> For the `logging-log4j-site` website repo this will also entail that
>>> it will have multiple staging branches.
>>> 2. The `asf-staging` should not be protected. Before staging a website
>>> the Release Manager would perform:
>>> 
>>> git reset --hard origin/asf-site
>>> git push -f
>>> 
>>> hence ensuring that moving changes from the staging branch to
>>> `asf-site` will be usually a fast-forward and a simple cherry-pick
>>> `origin/asf-site..asf-staging` at worst.
>>> 
>>> For the staging Nexus repo I would propose using a comment to close
>>> the repo in the format:
>>> 
>>> `<code-repo-name>` version `<version_number>` RC1
>>> 
>>> For example Volkan used "`logging-parent` version `10.2.0` RC`" on the
>>> 1204 repo and we can easily guess what that repo contains. ;-)
>>> 
>>> Piotr
>>> 
>>> PS: Maybe we could drop the `*-site` Git repositories except
>>> `logging-site` and move their content to an `asf-site/asf-staging`
>>> branch of the corresponding code repo.
>>> 

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