Hi Matt, On 20.01.2026 19:17, Matt Sicker wrote: > The image wasn’t uploaded to the list, so I can’t see it.
You can see the data Volkan was referring to at the following link: https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/graphs/contributors Looking at that history, Ralph is the only contributor who has been continuously active since the project’s early days without any extended breaks. For Gary, Remko, Carter, and yourself, the bulk of contributions largely tapered off around 2022. Volkan has been active from 2020 to the present, and I started contributing in 2022 and remain active on a daily (sometimes weekly) basis. I’m not bringing this up to diminish anyone’s past contributions: those were and remain hugely valuable. Rather, it raises an important question about what we’re really discussing: is this primarily about the adoption of RTC in May 2025, or about how we make it easier for long-time contributors to return and make occasional changes after longer periods of low activity? > Anyways, I can see that this conversation is going nowhere. I’m > convinced that this PMC has become property of Volkan and Piotr. I don’t think that characterization is accurate. The project’s governance rules haven’t changed. We’re not preventing discussion or proposals around alternative review models; we simply don’t agree with the changes being proposed, and so we vote accordingly. That’s how consensus (or majority) decision-making works. At no point has a blocking majority been formed by two individuals: decisions still rest with the PMC as a whole, just as they always have. Piotr
