I have to admit I have a hard time following what "WE" decided and
what is going on right now. There are several issues and as far as I
understand a somewhat reasonable plan to tackle them. Yet, I think we
should take a step back and sum up things what the current status is
before we get into wars or anything unreasonable. We had a vote on
Java 8 on trunk which passed if I remember. Yet, we also need to sort
out the back compat issues that robert raised and I think they are
valid. The actions we wanna take somehow got mixed into a different
discussion ( he java8 vote Steve pointed out) and I think they did
have (not saying they would't get) consensus. I feel like things
moving too quick here too and they are hard to follow. Can we have a
vote for the proposal that is worked on?

On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Steve Rowe <[email protected]> wrote:
> That proposal was on a VOTE thread for a separate issue: moving trunk to 
> Java8, and literally nobody replied to it.
>
> Spreading this kind of decision around on several issues and threads and then 
> assuming that everybody will put them together, understand which version of 
> the proposal is active at any given second, and then somehow agree, is 
> ridiculous.
>
> Steve
>
> On Sep 18, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Uwe Schindler <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> FYI, we are following this proposal:
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/lucene-dev/201409.mbox/%3CCAOdYfZUpAbYp-omdw=ngjsdzbkvhn2zydobzvj1gdxk+lrt...@mail.gmail.com%3E
>>
>> Uwe
>>
>> -----
>> Uwe Schindler
>> H.-H.-Meier-Allee 63, D-28213 Bremen
>> http://www.thetaphi.de
>> eMail: [email protected]
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Uwe Schindler [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 7:38 PM
>>> To: '[email protected]'
>>> Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] The next Lucene/Solr release, aka 5.0 is the new 4.11
>>>
>>> Hi Steve,
>>>
>>> Robert is currently backporting the "non-critical" stuff from Lucene 5. 
>>> There is
>>> some code in 5.0, which is not ready to commit (like Lucene Stored
>>> Document's API). The approach above was just done like that for ease of
>>> handling. In fact, Robert created a "big patch" between trunk an branch_5x
>>> and removed all stuff that’s not ready for release. This would then be
>>> committed to 5.x branch for release.
>>>
>>> So the current workflow may be "untypical" but at the end was easier to
>>> handle than "reverting" changes in trunk that are not ready to release.
>>>
>>> We are not going to release the state of the branching today, it was just a
>>> step inbetween. After Robert's hard work we will have a large number of
>>> changes in 5.0, especially those breaking backwards compatibility (like the
>>> final move to Java 7 NIO.2). We are just inbetween at the moment. Stuff
>>> that’s unfinished (like we removed WAR file in trunk, but in contrast have 
>>> no
>>> real Lucene Server with main() method, servlet free is not releaseable) were
>>> left out.
>>>
>>> Uwe
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Uwe Schindler
>>> H.-H.-Meier-Allee 63, D-28213 Bremen
>>> http://www.thetaphi.de
>>> eMail: [email protected]
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Steve Rowe [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 7:26 PM
>>>> To: lucene dev
>>>> Subject: [DISCUSS] The next Lucene/Solr release, aka 5.0 is the new
>>>> 4.11
>>>>
>>>> On LUCENE-5944, Robert and Uwe discussed moving trunk to 6.x and
>>>> “creating branch_5x”, which I understood to mean:
>>>>
>>>>   svn copy trunk branch_6x
>>>>   svn move trunk branch_5x
>>>>
>>>> Today, Robert did:
>>>>
>>>>   svn copy branch_4x branch_5x
>>>>
>>>> and then Uwe did:
>>>>
>>>>   svn remove branch_4x
>>>>
>>>> I don’t think this is the way to go.  There is huge amount of
>>>> deprecation removal that happened on trunk, which will have to be
>>>> repeated on branch_5x prior to a release.
>>>>
>>>> How about we go with releasing what was trunk before today as 5.0?
>>>> That will have the same backcompat result as Robert/Uwe’s approach.
>>>>
>>>> Steve
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