It seems to me that if we have a fix for the things that ail our Maven support 
(Steve's work), that it isn't then the reason for holding up a release and we 
should just keep them as there are a significant number of users who consume 
Lucene that way (via the central repository).  I agree that we should not 
switch our build system,  but supporting the POMs is no different than 
supporting the IntelliJ/Eclipse generation tools (they are both problematic 
since they are not automated)   


On Jan 18, 2011, at 7:48 AM, Robert Muir wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Stevo Slavić <ssla...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> More than one build tools is not way to go, I believe everyone agrees
>> on that, and that it's not an issue.
>> 
>> Have you guys at least considered making a switch to a build tool that
>> knows to produce maven artifacts (or enhancing exiting one to take
>> care of that)? E.g. ant+ivy, gradle, maven itself.
>> 
> 
> I think its important to look at the build system as supporting
> development too, but most features being developed today are against
> lucene's core: which has no dependencies at all.
> 
> For example, our ant build supports rapidly running the core tests
> (splitting them across different jvms in parallel: i've looked at the
> support for parallel testing in other build systems like maven and I
> think ours is significantly better for our tests).
> 
> This compile-test-debug lifecycle is important, for the lucene core
> tests its very fast.
> 
> So while I might agree with you that for something like Solr
> development, perhaps ant+ivy is something worth considering, I think
> its overkill and would be a step backwards for lucene, we would only
> slow down development.
> 
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